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My Fear (Unable to find any RP)


Melphina

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Hey so I have some concerns going on, idk what is going on, but I've been getting flat out ignored for several weeks now when I read someone's search info and it says "Walkups welcome" and even though it says they're not afk and they look at me, they never respond and I just make an edit to my post and resend it in the event the game nommed it. Well it's been happening a lot lately, and it's starting to make me discouraged that maybe RP isn't really welcoming for me anymore.

 

I would sometimes go up to people and make a simple post to kinda do a greeting, you know something friendly. I wouldn't have anything like ERP in my search info, or be wearing anything that looked like i was looking for it, and yet after 5 minutes of waiting AFTER THE PEOPLE HAVE LOOKED AT ME AND THEN UNTARGETED, I walk off and I get a /tell (About 60% of the time) going "Oh I saw your post, I'm sorry if I looked like I was ignoring you, I wasn't" which is complete crap, they were and the fact they would make a post for that and not go "Oh I'm not really wanting to RP, sorry" makes me want to throw up.

 

It's gotten to the point I kept count yesterday at the grindstone, I got ignored by 13 different people, even making sure I asked if my messages went through or if they got eaten. Never got a message, not even got an acknowledgement until AFTER I had left. I'm going to give RP one more try, if it continues, I might just give up and move onto something else, because I take the time to always make sure I at least reply to someone and RP with them briefly or tell them I'm not really up for it.

 

Has anyone else been having this problem?

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Generally, I've found the search info thing to be a hoax. It's a bad indicator of whether someone is looking for random/walk-up RP or not. (Not to mention how weird it is to have to actually look it up). Either walk up or move on. Or send a /tell if concerned.

 

But there's also a large portion of people who also just simply like to use the public places for private RP or to idle. Short of actively approaching or sending a tell, you'll never know who's who. And there probably isn't a whole lot you can do on your side if you're putting in the effort to meet people.

 

Personally, I fall into that "I like to coordinate my RP" group. I don't do walk-ups well because I tend to not be looking at the screen or might be otherwise busy. But that also means I go long periods of not RPing because I'm not in the mood to do so or I don't reach out. (Which means it's my fault if I want RP and don't help make it happen).

 

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As an aside, the Grindstone is probably one of the more difficult places to get into a group of people's RP, given its very large crowds recently. I'm probably not alone in saying the chatlog scroll is so fast that even when the log window takes up 1/4 of my screen, it's extremely easy to miss a post. And if someone isn't looking out for your text in particular, it's like tossing a needle into a haystack. Sure, someone might jump on it and get pricked, but chances are, looking at it, nobody's going to notice unless they're already looking for it.

 

I'd recommend a little coordination with people. The RPC isn't the only resource out there! Tumblr has some, and there's also a portion of RPers who don't use anything but the game! (I have no idea how they accomplish such feats).

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Hi there,

 

Where are you trying to find rp? If you're doing it mostly during events, I think it's unexpectedly the most difficult setting to meet people, as most of the time rpers are already in groups or know each other, and as Mercenary said, texts are going so fast than even when you try to focus only on your friends' text you're still missing bit of sentences sometimes.

 

I'd rather advise you to post a thread in "making connections" to introduce part of your character concept and ask if people are interested to set up a meeting. I did it when I arrived as a newbie on Balmung and met awesome people I'm very thankful to know now! 

 

You can also wander in the quicksands, there's always someone looking for new rps.

And if you've already done all of this then perhaps there's another problem or you've really been unlucky. Sometimes people are just busy doing something else, or chatting in /tell or /party or afk and miss your post. Sometimes it gets eaten too. Be patient and do not hesitate to ask people why they ignore you if you really think they do. I'm part of the people targetting random rper to read their description 'cause I'm like super-curious, and based on that I get an idea whether the player would be interested with my character or not, so maybe it's what some people did?

 

Usually I like meeting new rper so, do not hesitate to poke me ig if you want to meet (unless you're an au'ra, 'cause my character will just snob you, and that's not what you actually need xD).

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It happens a lot in places that are crowded, the scrolling text makes things hard to pick out and half the folks are RPing in party chat.

 

I'd suggest Linkshells aimed at connections and places that FCs run for RP. Here you can find smaller RP to suit yourself.

 

When i do walk ups I find they don't respond or if they do it is very flat. What I look for is others that will adding to the RP.

 

Keep at it, and try alternative routes if the ones you had are not working.

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The runestone/grindstone I can understand, but during dead times in the Quicksand? I mean yeah I definitely understand with the flying text, but I always make sure that I can manage to talk to someone that strayed a little bit away from the main group to prevent that. I can't name names, but I'm sure others relate to this kind of frustration.

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If you're walking away after 5 minutes, then it's quite possible that you're not giving the other person enough time to respond. Especially in those cases when you get a follow-up tell saying, "I wasn't ignoring you," it's quite possible that the other person was in the midst of writing their post when you left. I'm a para RPer and it can easily take me longer than 5 minutes to write a post. 

 

Another good idea is to always open with an OOC /tell to make sure the person is (a) not afk and (b) currently in character and looking for RP. I idle in public places sometimes while I tab in and out of the game, and I know it's a common practice.

 

The suggestion to look for RP on the "Making Connections" forum is a good one. Scheduled RP is often richer than walk-up RP anyway.

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If you're walking away after 5 minutes, then it's quite possible that you're not giving the other person enough time to respond. Especially in those cases when you get a follow-up tell saying, "I wasn't ignoring you," it's quite possible that the other person was in the midst of writing their post when you left. I'm a para RPer and it can easily take me longer than 5 minutes to write a post. 

 

Another good idea is to always open with an OOC /tell to make sure the person is (a) not afk and (b) currently in character and looking for RP. I idle in public places sometimes while I tab in and out of the game, and I know it's a common practice.

 

The suggestion to look for RP on the "Making Connections" forum is a good one. Scheduled RP is often richer than walk-up RP anyway.

 

I have timed myself typing and I'm typically the slowest one when it comes to my computer technology class. Typing out a full response for all characters for me takes a little less than a minute and a half, saying you can't at the very least put out a half assed response in under five minutes is absolutely bogus.

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This is... slightly unrelated, but a word of advice. If the game does eat your emote, simply resending it won't do the trick - even in different channels. Once that particular block of text is sucked into the void, it can never again be given life by you. You will have to re-type it, and I would strongly recommend using completely different wording as to prevent it from happening again.

 

I have timed myself typing and I'm typically the slowest one when it comes to my computer technology class. Typing out a full response for all characters for me takes a little less than a minute and a half, saying you can't at the very least put out a half assed response in under five minutes is absolutely bogus.

 

Careful. Some people are really slow typers, and even then how slow they are depends on how much text and detail they are putting into their emotes. Some people even proof-read their stuff, which is a fucking trial with the in-game chat system. Be patient.

 

That being said, I would be glad to approach you at some point, though I must confess I do not know your in-game name at all.

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You've been given good advice here.

 

I also agree that 5 minutes is pretty short. I work on computers for a living and can type fairly quickly! RP, on the other hand, takes me around 2-4 minutes for a reply most times (I know this because timestamps). If it's a very detailed response, if I have some sort of background distraction, if I'm tired, etc. it can take even longer.

 

I always welcome people sending a /tell: ((Hey! Can I join in?)) ((Are you free to RP?)) Hell, even just ((hi)) will get my attention. Even if you don't see a bunch of chat scroll, the other person might be having an in-depth conversation on their end in another channel.

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If you're walking away after 5 minutes, then it's quite possible that you're not giving the other person enough time to respond. Especially in those cases when you get a follow-up tell saying, "I wasn't ignoring you," it's quite possible that the other person was in the midst of writing their post when you left. I'm a para RPer and it can easily take me longer than 5 minutes to write a post. 

 

Another good idea is to always open with an OOC /tell to make sure the person is (a) not afk and (b) currently in character and looking for RP. I idle in public places sometimes while I tab in and out of the game, and I know it's a common practice.

 

The suggestion to look for RP on the "Making Connections" forum is a good one. Scheduled RP is often richer than walk-up RP anyway.

 

I have timed myself typing and I'm typically the slowest one when it comes to my computer technology class. Typing out a full response for all characters for me takes a little less than a minute and a half, saying you can't at the very least put out a half assed response in under five minutes is absolutely bogus.

 

I have no intention of putting out a half-assed response, though. I often take my time over my posts because I care about the quality of my writing and because I respect my RP partners enough to put in real effort. This kind of attitude is unlikely to win you RP partners.

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Howdy! So, I'm going to echo a few people here.

 

1.) Look at making a post within the connection section. 

 

2.) Make a wiki, or as I call them a character sheet. 

 

3.) Look for an FC, and make sure they are a good fit for you. 

 

I've been in this boat for a good four weeks my friend, and I cannot express how important it is for you not to get discouraged. There are decent role-players out there, and if you keep on looking you'll find it or in some cases they will find you. 

 

Now, I know this might sound strange and all. But, I'd suggest try scheduling oocly with another role-player. You know, even if it requires you to wait you could use that time to enjoy the content within the game, fresh out your character some, or make a glamour.

 

I'm not going to bore you, or clutter your screen with text on this subject.  But, don't let someone or a group lead you on.  If they express interest be here,  in-game, or wherever it may be and you make the effort to reach back out to them and they blow you off or come up with some reason why they cannot RP with you after a few attempts (The amount is up to you.)  MOVE ON.  Cause if you wait around, you are going to find yourself getting burnt out, or worst discouraged.

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While 5 minutes may be short for people who like to write long thorough posts, I think it's far too long to go without acknowledging that you received a post at all, especially in the context of walk up roleplay where people need to know if they need to move along and keep looking.

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As someone who typically takes 5-10 minutes between replies unless I'm beaten in the head by magic silver spoons or something, if I'm in the process of typing a response, I don't usually drop what I'm doing, copy the block out (and pray that it stays in the clipboard), respond with a quick reply, and then try to regain my thought for a post from there. It completely disrupts what's already a fickle process at times. (Edda can vouch for me when I say I made her wait 30+ minutes for a reply once. And it gave her enough time to rearrange her FC room on top of me).

 

If I get a ((hey, are you still typing, or did it get eaten)) post, I will sometimes drop what I'm doing to respond to it, but I don't consider it the norm.

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I can't speak for curent times, but I sorta stopped trying to rp randomly a few years back because of this, and other stuff.  I've personally found public gatherings of rpers to be terrible terrible spots for rp for a few reasons.  What I've done is stop trying completely.  Instead, I look for specific environments/rpers that I feel would have better results.  I really can't rp anymore unless I find an in along those lines.  Even people who claim "walkups welcome", I don't approach.  You might want to think about taking a similar approach.  From my experience, this probably won't help you actually find rp, but it'll cut down the disappointment factor immensely.

 

And just because we're on the subject, I have "walkups/spontaneous welcome" in my info.  The last time I I got a bite, which was 4 or 5 months ago, we ended up rping for a couple of hours.

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My two cents:

 

If you're in a non-social RP, then you can know for certain that everyone involved is on board (or not) with a player taking their time with a lengthy and detailed response.

 

If you're in a social location where walk-up random RP is likely to occur, then you need to be ready to be reactive. That means either shorten your initial post to the newcomer so that they know ASAP that they've been acknowledged and more's coming, such as...

 

Calliope Cloverbloom smiles at the newcomer. "Hello there!"

 

...or, if you just can't bear to ever write a short post even if you're in a location where it's simply more effective to do so, then before you start on your long post, do the newcomer a favor and give them a head's up...

 

Calliope Cloverbloom ((hey there! i type a bit slowly and can be a little wordy, so give me a sec to post to you))

 

...because if you send that before you even start your RP post, there's no need to cut and paste, and everything is crystal clear to the person who has walked up.

 

Do not blame the walk-up person for walking away too quickly. Someone shouldn't be expected to stand around wondering if you're going to post to them or not, because for every player who does in fact reply after 5, 10, 15, whatever minutes, there'll be half a dozen who are AFK, or tabbed out reading something, and so on, who simply will never send them a message, which results in the newcomer... standing there for a chunk of their evening, which may be a limited amount of free time to them. That's not fair to them and frankly it's rude to expect it of someone.

 

It's up to the veterans to show courtesy to newcomers if they want to RP community to grow and remain vibrant. Lack of courtesy to newcomers is what begins the decline of a community, because if the newcomers feel unwelcome or unwanted they'll continue on to some other game. Veterans will inevitably take breaks or move on too, and without newcomers to keep things moving, stagnation occurs in a hurry (which snowballs into more veterans leaving).

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I feel bad as while I don't think I think I am one of the people on the list I do want to say I have been known to stand in the Quicksands afk without my afk tag on (I turn it off to screw with friends when I go to bed...don't hate).

 

But there are times I do stand around and am just tabbed watching a video. I normally ask people to whisper me to get my attention though or if I notice they had said something to me I rush after them to RP. I do however try not to respond to RP whispers since most of the ones that come my way as a female in the Sands ends up being ones I don't want.

 

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I do suggest though that if you try to look for RP in the Quicksands and you feel ignored that you try and tag someone in an RP LS or anything like that. The Grindstone as stated is a huge event and there is ALOT of scrollage. I have trouble trying to even keep up with the fights to call.

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I, too, struggled to find role-play after first making the leap over to FFXIV from WoW. There was a bit of a culture shock to deal with and on top of that I found myself not particularly fond by the idea of attending large events simply because the amount of chat scrolling alone is a major obstacle.

 

I also wasn't eager to head towards the infamous Quicksand. Not only because in many ways it is this game's version of Goldshire (though there are shining gems to be found amongst the muck) but because it didn't really make sense for my character to go there.

 

So I approached people who intrigued me on this site by sending them a PM and asking if they'd like to meet up. It worked in some cases and didn't work in others - but overall I'd say such an approach proved to be a success.

 

So my advice? Keep an eye out for posters who say stuff that you agree with or seem to drift towards a role-play style that suits you. It's the best way to forge meaningful connections in my opinion - especially since random role-play can be very hit and miss.

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So I approached people who intrigued me on this site by sending them a PM and asking if they'd like to meet up. It worked in some cases and didn't work in others - but overall I'd say such an approach proved to be a success.

 

So my advice? Keep an eye out for posters who say stuff that you agree with or seem to drift towards a role-play style that suits you. It's the best way to forge meaningful connections in my opinion - especially since random role-play can be very hit and miss.

 

I'd like to second this approach. It works for many of us who are not particularly fond of walk-up roleplay, tavern roleplay, slice-of-life roleplay, and/or random encounter roleplay. Often times, the approach we'd prefer doesn't work as well for us as individuals as other approaches that we're disinclined to pursue. Case in point, I'd LOVE more random and/or walk-up RP, but what little of it I actually get rarely ends up worth my time or theirs (meaning that it rarely develops into and results in further interactions).

 

This is not a condemnation of any of the above types/styles of roleplay, merely an observation that many I've personally encountered and/or roleplayed with happen to struggle with the above.

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Ive made some of my best friends in this game by randomly asking for RP in a Linkshell Im in, and recently made another friend by merely asking if he wanted to rp, mentioning that Id seen him around the RPC and he intrigued me. Got a lot of cool stuff to do with my character through him, actually. Just keep trying, and Id suggest finding an RP Linkshell or FC to join. Ive been with Mythril Wings for six months now, and theres almost always someone willing to hang out 8-). Just gotta find your niche!

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5mn is too short. Way too short. If you think it's long, if it displeases you to wait and if you find it "bogus" that people cannot answer under the time you think as being normal ? Prepare to be utterly disappointed. Many, many RPer need more than 5mn to write an answer. Even more when they are surprised by some walk ups : It's easier to prepare a message when you're the one reaching to the others than being the one adapting to that new person who reaches out to you.

RPer are all different. Reading the search info will not tell you if the RPer in front of you is in the mood to RP or not, if they are AFK or not, if they write long sentences or not, if they are slow or fast, if they are english native or not (because yes, Balmung is an international server and a non native speaker might also be slower) etc. You cannot know anything of that just out of some "Walk ups welcome" announce on the search info and I don't know that many people who edit their search info every single time they are or aren't in the mood to RP.

 

If you want to find some RP and to walk up to someone, you might want to lower a little your expectations in the first place, then try those things :

- PM the person before engaging anything, usually people are quick to answer to an OOC question while they are slow to answer to some sudden IC post. Offer them to RP, thus you won't have the feeling to waste your time. Plus you can totally go ahead and just do something else such as checking the MB or your retainer while the person answer.. Or not.

- Make sure you're not in a place where the chat scrolls fast. Because it's extremely complicated to follow what happens in a place such as the Quicksands or during an event. If you want to RP there and both you and your RP partner agreed on RPing in such place ? RP in party. And that might be another reason why some people didn't answer to you in some crowded places such as the Quicksand and the Grindstone : Some don't post in say channel, but in party to be able to focus on what their RP partner is saying and thus easily miss some stuff which are said aside.

- Try to go in some events, join a LS, post a thingy in the making connection topic, schedule some rp, etc. if walking up upsets you.

 

But again, while 5mn seems to be long enough to answer for you, it's fairly possible that it's too short for many of the RPer out there. Yes it's surprising and it surprised me as well, but it's the case :) !

 

@Franz : I do myself some super long answer at time, but I post the pieces one after another using the > symbol at the end of one of the part to announce that something will come next (which  also allow my partners to react if relevant ^^), so I post a little paragraph each 5mn :D .

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@Franz : I do myself some super long answer at time, but I post the pieces one after another using the > symbol at the end of one of the part to announce that something will come next (which  also allow my partners to react if relevant ^^), so I post a little paragraph each 5mn :D .

 

I do stuff like that too, when it happens! (In general, my posts aren't long, but I take a long time to write sometimes. Native speaker failure.)

 

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What I mean is that if I were in the middle of typing out a sentence or a post,

*immediately stops everything to reply to something else* it breaks up the thought at that's kinda jarring. I tend to separate my tells and party chat into their own tab so I can keep track of them. But I don't like the idea of cutting my post (which is already short a lot of the time) into multiple, disjointed posts for a "I saw your /tell and will get back to reading it when I can" message, if I can simply finish writing and then actually make a response.

 

My average post in RP is maybe 2 lines on my chatbar, compared to about the 5 is can be if maxed out. Short of a screenshot to illustrate the point. But this isn't trying to blame a newcomer, but if I've spent the last 5, maybe 10 minutes on a post trying to get -something- out, I -really- want to get it written so I can handle everything else. And I think there's likely a group of people who feel the same way.

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One of my dearest RP friends is a 10 minute replier. Gets rough sometimes, but that's what alt+tab is for.

 

You have a very defensive and slightly antagonistic tone here that is probably the result of your frustrations with finding RP. I get it. But a dollop of patience will make any of the above strategies more effective.

 

Me, I rely heavily on my RP FC, my LSes, and RP events for RP.

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