(10-10-2014, 03:39 PM)Berrod Armstrong Wrote: Okay! I looked through the responses and realized that some didn't address the OP -- a bit of mine included. I tried to answer each concern as best as I could. 

I think I'm getting old, but it's slowly starting to bug me when characters around me point out; "Hey you're wearing revealing clothes" even though Feo is in her tribal subligar. She turns around and tells them "Uhm... but dis wha my tribe war all da time." But they have none of it and want her to put on a sweater...


So that brings me to an issue I've been noticing lately. Part of it having to do with bringing everyday sensibilities into the fantasy world (another one of those OOC into IC bleeds). Now, I'm assuming that the general Eorzean public is used to tribal sorts (or people from any origin) visiting the various cities to trade and do what ever business right?

Well, you see. I don't think the IC/OOC bleed is soley on the other player here. If you are being OOC bugged by something said IC -- well. It may not necessarily be their bleed.

It's the same as if I visited Africa, New Guinea, or the Australian outback and started going; "Oh the horror! You people aren't wearing clothes! She needs to put a shirt on!"

That happens, actually. Not that it really counts because Eorzea is none of those places!

Should I expect that the culture clash between the citizens of the city states and outsiders be that bad?

You don't really have to expect that; rather, be aware and sensitive to the fact that different players play their characters with different standards and sensitivities, based on their personalities -- and that these sensitivities may or may not not be grounded in any sort of logic. Lots of people have personal preferences or sensitivities that logic cannot explain!

Isn't it common that some warriors of all sorts, eschew clothes or cover up less (think coliseum top and bottom) on occasion in this setting?

I wouldn't say common, but rather possible in certain circumstances.

Seeing a hygur in the camisole top and bottom as part of her "armor" ensemble is perfectly normal to me and should be a pretty common sight. After all even hygur have tribes and the look seems pretty appropriate to the setting.

This is...subjective, but I can understand where you're coming from. 

The same holds true for a miqote in any revealing combination. That includes the male in the coliseum top and bottom. Seems to me very appropriate, fits the setting, and shouldn't be a rare sight.

There's a time and place for everything -- the 'setting' of Eorzea is one that spans an entire continent and several different cultures. If something 'fits the setting' in one area, it may not in another -- and even then, that may not necessarily hold any bearing on the sensitivities and preferences of a character!

I'm starting to associate the comment; "Hey that's revealing clothes!" with breaking the 4th wall.

That's -- some of that IC/OOC bleed going on there at worst, and an assumption at best.

Now, keep in mind we're in final fantasy land, not modern everyday downtown LA. I look forward to your opinions on this!


I agree! But that still doesn't have anything to do with the preferences and sensitivities people play their characters with. Eorzea is a BIG place, with lots of people. Some won't bat an eyelash at a scantily clad person, others will be SCANDALIZED~! It's just a matter of rolling with it! 

If they tell you about it OOC, however...THAT'S when they begin the bleed -- THAT'S when the fourth wall starts to go down. Because in THAT case, something you do IC is making them have an OOC reaction.

I hope all of this made some sense and helped a bit!

(10-10-2014, 03:58 PM)Mae Wrote:

(10-10-2014, 03:15 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: I tend to think very poorly about players wearing slut gear for glamour. I've found that amount of skin shown tends to be inversely proportional with their ability to do their effing job.

Wardrobe malfunctions are NOT how Flash works!

(10-10-2014, 03:15 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: I tend to think very poorly about players wearing slut gear for glamour. I've found that amount of skin shown tends to be inversely proportional with their ability to do their effing job.

(10-10-2014, 03:17 PM)CrookedTarot Wrote: Isn't it possible, in a world like Eorzea that has a proud history of adventurers of all stripes, that seeing someone ANYONE walking around in metal-plated skivvies to be typical? Not just talking men or just women but in general. The game itself is part of a series where ridiculous clothing is the norm (see Kuja from FF IX who no one ever talks about in any game about how HE is dressed).

Quote:Also I would refrain from using the phrase "slut gear" ever again, thank you very much. Some basic respect would be appreciated.

(10-10-2014, 05:21 PM)Zyrusticae Wrote: If only Miqo'te had a muscle slider, it would actually make some semblance of sense...

(10-10-2014, 05:26 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote:

(10-10-2014, 05:21 PM)Zyrusticae Wrote: If only Miqo'te had a muscle slider, it would actually make some semblance of sense...

It surprises me that they don't because pretty much everyone else has it exception Lalas (and consarnit I want my renaissance baby buff lalas for maximum MRDing).

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(10-10-2014, 07:57 PM)B Wrote: One of the only times I've seen the "REVEALING CLOTHING" in RP actually get out of hand is when people are whispering creepy things to the people that are wearing such things. IC creepy stuff....that is up to whom is being whispered, can always ignored it or ask that they not try that sorta rp with ya. OOC? Uh,...blacklistsofast.

I've not had any issues with revealing stuff in an RP setting, if you're walking around Ul'dah after a long day in the dessert and want to relax, you'll want to wear something to cool off n'stuff. I'unno.