(06-19-2015, 12:01 AM)Virella Douront Wrote:(06-18-2015, 07:09 PM)Griffith! Wrote: I'm not sure what you're saying. Only recruit Elezen and Hyurs? I mean, the point is already to be a branch of the Ishgardian temple knights - specifically, the branch that defends holy sites outside of Ishgard. The only way to be any more Ishgardian is to limit our recruitment practices to those two races and never leave the city walls except to kill a dragon.Going to be very blunt, at this point, unless we get proven wrong in a few hours I do not think there is such a thing as non-Ishgardian Temple Knights, unless you wish to have heresy claims and a beheading, hanging or a trip down withdrop following next. I really, really do not think Ishgardians are happy to let outsiders in their sacred order at this point. So ehm. Yeah.
EDIT: Also, I was thinking about going with Ark Knights, because, first, it's another special character class from FFT, like Temple Knight, and second my name is Arkwright.
Ishgardians do leave the city. Read into the lore and you will see they have business with the other cities. They simply do not go on holidays, fun days off ect. Everything they do has to be in the name of the Holy War.
So by your own admission it is possible there could be Ishgardians outside the city of Ishgard. I don't see how that precludes Temple Knights who don't live in Ishgard. They leave the city, ergo, there are some who are not in the city. My character, Lord-Commander of the Ark Knights, is a Temple Knight assigned to a distasteful duty away from the city as a punishment for some sin or infraction. He recruits from a pool of non-Ishgardian soldiers or disgraced Ishgardian Knights to keep his forces up, because it's not like the church is just going to send him perfectly good troops while a war is on.
I don't understand the objection anyway. If there is an orthodoxy, there is also an unorthodoxy. Otherwise, why bother stipulating that the church is orthodox? It implies there is more than one faction within the church. So why can't there be more than one faction of Temple Knight?
And I'm not worried about anyone crying heresy. Why should they? Because not every member of my division is Ishgardian? Why would they care? We're not even in Ishgard. I should think they'd be pleased, that we can defend non-Ishgardian holy sites without using Ishgardian soldiers.
And there are twelve gods. Twelve of them. They can't all have the same tenets in their faith, or why bother having twelve gods? So maybe the followers of Halone, the Fury don't agree with the recruitment practices of my division. But maybe Oschon, the Wanderer is all about it.
But even after saying all that, I don't even mind being declared a heretic. In fact, I'm largely okay with the motivational dissonance there. "Kill him, he's a heretic!" "Why? Does he worship the Primals?" "No, he does our job for us!" "..."
TL;DR - I get it, you don't want anyone using the name of a canon organisation without being completely within the bounds of said canon. That's why I proposed the change from Temple to Ark Knight.
P.S. I am now thinking of calling them - in addition to calling them Ark Knights - the Order of the Southern Sky (again as an homage to my favorite Final Fantasy, FFT.)
Each man longs to pursue his dream. Each man is tortured by this dream, but the dream gives meaning to his life. Even if the dream ruins his life, man cannot allow himself to leave it behind. In this world, is man ever able to possess anything more solid, than a dream?
-Berserk