(08-21-2015, 02:17 PM)A Wrote:(08-21-2015, 02:11 PM)LadyRochester Wrote:Fair enough. I won't argue semantics at this point because I don't know the situation. And it seems like this one individual was just a bad example and not a majority. I haven't seen anyone say they were a genius character ooc and expect it to be acknowledged, so I suppose you've just have some really negative experiences with people like that. I haven't run into it, hell, I rarely talk to people OOC and just let their IC do the talking. Neither here nor there though.Quote:A'rkalonn Sargonnai
At this point, the examples are starting to get silly. No one in any right mind, even an idiot, would try to convince someone of anything like that IC. It's gone beyond a person who can't fully back up they are a genius, and are going into cloudcuckoolander territory. Anyone who plays a genius character and would even attempt something like that is trolling, and it's a terrible example to what is supposed to be a serious topic. There's a vast difference between a genius character getting a few details wrong a player may or may not have, and someone just spouting nonsense. I've never seen anyone who plays a character they're attempting to put off as highly intelligent do anything like that unless they were IC trying to make someone else look ignorant.
I also want to know where all these people are who brag oocly about their characters being geniuses who then talk like idiots. Are they in the tall grass like some kind of Pokémon? Because I have yet to see any of them. I suppose it's hard to grasp an example of this when I haven't seen any such thing, but I guess that's just differing experiences.
Edit: I agree, Berrod. I think that really is the best idea at this point. Berrod Obama for president of Eorzea, 2016. :3
It was a mere example. I'll give you a more realistic one.
This character called him/herself a "strategic genius". However, all the "strategies" he came up with were often extremely reckless and stupid. Instead of sneaking into an enemy camp, they wanted to storm in and rescue their friends while murdering everyone there. My character has a weakness to aether--First thing this person did? Send her off to the likes of Mor Dhona, of course. Kill enemies? Blow up a bomb at our home to send them off.
This person had ideas like this--And referred to him/herself as a "strategic genius"
But yes, this entire topic has gone off topic I think, and it is a sensitive subject. In any case, it is possible to play a genius if you aren't, if you're willing to do the work. It just sounds like that individual wasn't willing to do the work. Seems more lazy then lacking in intelligence. But that's me.
To be fair, I think people confuse knowledge and intelligence. Â Some of the most proficient people on the planet aren't geniuses, they just tried exceptionally hard to excel in their subject.
My mother very clearly explained to me one day that both she and her sister went into nursing. Â Her sister was very obviously more intelligent. Â She could pick up concepts in one reading that might have taken my mother two or three passes, and my mother always had to run through processes and lists because she couldn't just do it mentally.
Yet my mother is almost unquestionably the better nurse, and that's because she worked harder. Â She read it two or three times until she got it, whereas my aunt might not have read it until right before the test. Â She had processes, so she never skipped anything. Â She worked HARD to be the nurse she is, and she's more knowledgeable than most of the doctors she works with.
You do not need to play a genius to play a master artisan. Â You don't need to be Einstein to be a master blacksmith or to be an award-winning scientist.
Intelligence is a raw trait. Â It's often obvious in conversation. Â It is NOT a measure of technical ability. Â It often helps, but it's not the hallmark of all great scientific minds. Â There is absolutely no shame in not being particularly intelligent.
It's sort of that last bastion of elitism. Â We can now have plus-sized models but people can't say, "You know what, I'm not a genius, but that's never meant I haven't been the best at what I do."
It just makes it hard to play someone with that kind of intelligence because it takes often hours to come up with good responses and solutions that it might take certain people a few minutes.  That doesn't make people worse as people.  There are people of great intelligence who could come up with quick and effective solutions, but never do.  They may seem smart in conversation, but that doesn't mean effective or accomplished necessarily.