In the one scene where Aymeric protected Lucia from the falling pillar on the Steps of Faith.... in that 3 seconds of footage he had more character development than most of the Scions combined.
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RE: [Spoilers] 3.4 MSQ Discussion Thread |
10-14-2016, 04:11 AM
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I think their horrible pacing (which is not new and already stems from 2.0, where you are put to sleep by the story for like 70% of the story until the end) is also due to their inability to put the story actually as a leading factor for development.
I know it's not an easy thing to do, but like in a lot of (especially western) RPGs, the story doesn't dictate the pacing and the world around, but the world and leveldesign dictates the story and thus, constrains it. Working myself in the industry, it's pretty blatant to me that the story writers get two things to work with: the general idea and outline for the expansion universe and concept, and the world builders and gameplay developers also get the same outline. Then both will work on their thing, and the story writers will then get to work with many different places leveldesigned in a certain way for it to work as a MMO, and they will have to make the story stick and go through a general path making the player visit all those places, allowing him/her to access to all the sidequests around. Every time. Now try to write a story where you know that the first thing you will have to do is find something to do in Western Coerthas, then fucking Sea of Clouds... I'm sure they could have found more engaging than just helping those two Fortemps heirs, but I really can't help to see it any other way than that. Balmung:Â Suen Shyu
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RE: [Spoilers] 3.4 MSQ Discussion Thread |
10-14-2016, 04:36 AM
I liked the story, but it got tied up in a neat little bow too early. Â Like it wasn't a masterpiece but I really enjoyed 3.4 a lot, but the fact that it was "hey the Warriors of Darkness are gone and Ishgard is saved and the Scions are all back together again" was blah.
There's going to be at least one more patch, and WTF are we going to do then? Â I mean sure it will be threads into Ala Mhigo but that story isn't going to resolve until the next expansion, so its just going to be a butt ton of cliff hangers til then? Â Boo. Â I think they should have closed with the Warriors of Darkness, then in 3.5 or whatever the last patch ends up being, reunite Papalymo and Yda with the group, and then have the threads into Ala Mhigo. Â Then at least there would be some story resolution along WITH the cliff hangers. Â As it stands the end of the expansion is going to be very hollow and unfulfilling. Â No resolution, all build up. |
RE: [Spoilers] 3.4 MSQ Discussion Thread |
10-15-2016, 04:00 AM
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Well at least Heavensward's writing was better than A Realm Reborn so... Progression I guess? I hope?
I wish they fleshed out the WoL more. But they probably won't because they probably think that if they start doing so, they will create a character that will maybe not fit to the headcanon/vision some players have of them. They possibly want to give the player full liberty to make up their own vision of their WoL. Which is a bit baffling since there is literally very little, if nothing to work with to begin with. Damn, I'm close to go on a rant again against all the bad things with western RPGs... And make no mistake, what differentiates FFXIV from other FF titles is that it works exactly like a western classical RPG (arenas and hubs filled with quests givers). Balmung:Â Suen Shyu
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RE: [Spoilers] 3.4 MSQ Discussion Thread |
10-16-2016, 04:35 AM
Why can't this game be a novel?
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10-16-2016, 04:34 PM
(10-16-2016, 03:08 PM)Teadrinker Wrote:(10-16-2016, 04:35 AM)Verad Wrote: Why can't this game be a novel? A good possible outcome, but given the track record of past MMO novels, I'd rather not take my chances. Richard Knaak. Jesus. Verad Bellveil's Profile | The Case of the Ransacked Rug | Verad's Fate Sheet
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RE: [Spoilers] 3.4 MSQ Discussion Thread |
10-16-2016, 04:55 PM
It's certainly better than TERA's. Since that's the only comparison I have to go off of, that's as much as I can criticize. When I try to evaluate whether a work does what it sets out to do or not, I try to only compare it to works in a similar medium.Â
That being said, I definitely share the opinion that the Scions are just not very interesting characters, for the most part. Thancred has potential. Urianger has potential. All the Scions could be cool, were they given some time to grow in personality and did not have to share screen time with expac characters. Likewise, the expac characters too have a lot of worth untapped because they needed to shove the main conflict with the Ascians into Heavensward. ã€Œè’¼æ°—ç ²ã€ã‚’使ã‚ã–ã‚‹ã‚’å¾—ãªã„!
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