Hydaelyn Role-Players

(03-17-2015, 03:04 PM)Aya Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-17-2015, 02:59 PM)Verad Wrote: [ -> ]I get it, really. It would be much better if the Au Ra were used to help provide a transformative, progressive model of character design in verisimilitude by having non-standard, non-idealized body types. I'm sorry that didn't happen.

What bothers me is the degree of sexual dimorphism introduced simply to appeal to conventional notions of attractiveness: Males can be beastly.  Females cannot.

I don't care for that. The style of the race should make sense as a holistic whole.  It doesn't, and the reason is because they were afraid the player base would reject a beastly female.  I don't see a positive in this, though it is not surprising.

Again, the reason they were afraid of that was because the less-traditional races (Roe female, Highlander Female) aren't played nearly as much as the male equivalent. The only people we can be frustrated with regarding SE's decision is the rest of the playerbase (and ourselves, if we don't have femroe or femlander alts).

(03-17-2015, 03:09 PM)Flashhelix Wrote: [ -> ] where's my roe armpit hair SE you fascists

How about ANY BODY HAIR AT ALL?! I want to look like I'm wearing a sweater when I unequip my chest slot!

(03-17-2015, 03:09 PM)Flashhelix Wrote: [ -> ] where's my roe armpit hair SE you fascists

A...actually I wouldn't mind body hair options...

not to mention that people associate "bestial" with "big and burly" and not "like an animal", female Au Ra are very bestial, they're just not burly or big

(03-17-2015, 03:11 PM)Dogberry Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-17-2015, 03:09 PM)Flashhelix Wrote: [ -> ] where's my roe armpit hair SE you fascists

How about ANY BODY HAIR AT ALL?! I want to look like I'm wearing a sweater when I unequip my chest slot!

Y-yes pls...

Why don't dudes get beard options at the Aesthetician!?

(03-17-2015, 03:11 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: [ -> ]Again, the reason they were afraid of that was because the less-traditional races (Roe female, Highlander Female) aren't played nearly as much as the male equivalent. The only people we can be frustrated with regarding SE's decision is the rest of the playerbase (and ourselves, if we don't have femroe or femlander alts).

This is a dodge.  They made the decision.  That's all that matters in that regard.

Honestly, this issue doesn't bother me much.  Mild personal disappointment, an eye-roll over the visuals of the race itself.  Its not going to stop me from enjoying and appreciating SE products, but the amount of dissembling in this discussion is getting silly.

(03-17-2015, 03:04 PM)Aya Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-17-2015, 02:59 PM)Verad Wrote: [ -> ]I get it, really. It would be much better if the Au Ra were used to help provide a transformative, progressive model of character design in verisimilitude by having non-standard, non-idealized body types. I'm sorry that didn't happen.

What bothers me is the degree of sexual dimorphism introduced simply to appeal to conventional notions of attractiveness: Males can be beastly.  Females cannot.

I don't care for that. The style of the race should make sense as a holistic whole.  It doesn't, and the reason is because they were afraid the player base would reject a beastly female.  I don't see a positive in this, though it is not surprising.

I'm just going to quote this for emphasis because Aya is much better at wording things than I am. This is the reason why I don't like the sexual dimorphism in Au Ra.

(03-17-2015, 03:14 PM)Aya Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-17-2015, 03:11 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: [ -> ]Again, the reason they were afraid of that was because the less-traditional races (Roe female, Highlander Female) aren't played nearly as much as the male equivalent. The only people we can be frustrated with regarding SE's decision is the rest of the playerbase (and ourselves, if we don't have femroe or femlander alts).

This is a dodge.  They made the decision.  That's all that matters in that regard.

Honestly, this issue doesn't bother me much.  Mild personal disappointment, an eye-roll over the visuals of the race itself.  Its not going to stop me from enjoying and appreciating SE products, but the amount of dissembling in this discussion is getting silly.

Blaming them for the decision is also a dodge in this case because they made it based on what we showed them.

I like debating, thank you Aya.

(03-17-2015, 03:12 PM)Bryn Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-17-2015, 03:11 PM)Dogberry Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-17-2015, 03:09 PM)Flashhelix Wrote: [ -> ] where's my roe armpit hair SE you fascists

How about ANY BODY HAIR AT ALL?! I want to look like I'm wearing a sweater when I unequip my chest slot!

Y-yes pls...

Why don't dudes get beard options at the Aesthetician!?

I just want my in game toon to represent Berrod's body hair so I don't have to describe it every time he takes his shirt off. /sob

(03-17-2015, 03:15 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: [ -> ]Blaming them for the decision is also a dodge in this case because they made it based on what we showed them.

I like debating, thank you Aya.

We didn't make the decision.  Period. SE did.  There's no debate, Warren!

(03-17-2015, 03:14 PM)Aya Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-17-2015, 03:11 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: [ -> ]Again, the reason they were afraid of that was because the less-traditional races (Roe female, Highlander Female) aren't played nearly as much as the male equivalent. The only people we can be frustrated with regarding SE's decision is the rest of the playerbase (and ourselves, if we don't have femroe or femlander alts).

This is a dodge.  They made the decision.  That's all that matters in that regard.

Honestly, this issue doesn't bother me much.  Mild personal disappointment, an eye-roll over the visuals of the race itself.  Its not going to stop me from enjoying and appreciating SE products, but the amount of dissembling in this discussion is getting silly.

It's not really a dodge if it's the whole reason for the decision

(03-17-2015, 03:00 PM)Flickering Ember Wrote: [ -> ]I agree that not all races should need to have similar height ratios or be devoid of sexual dismorphism. However, I don't know if I would say Au Ra are 'unique' in that way. I think roegadyns actually already have A LOT of sexual dimorphism. I mean, yeah sure, female roegadyns are muscular but compared to a male roegadyn they are actually very, very small in build. The sexual dimorphism is already here with roegadyns.

I think it would be unique if the female Au Ra were the larger ones and the male Au Ra the smaller ones. (Which also exists in nature with several species having larger females) Our MMO backgrounds are probably different; in the MMOs I am used to...pretty much all the races were already highly dimorphic so for me, personally, it's not new or unique based on my background.

It definitely would be. I was thinking of that only a few minutes ago and I'd certainly be happy to see a reversal with any new race in the future.

I don't have a great deal of experience with MMOs to be honest so I'll believe you when you say that. I was speaking explicitly about the height difference though since I thought that was the main issue(with everyone, not just you).

(03-17-2015, 03:17 PM)Aya Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-17-2015, 03:15 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: [ -> ]Blaming them for the decision is also a dodge in this case because they made it based on what we showed them.

I like debating, thank you Aya.

We didn't make the decision.  Period. SE did.  There's no debate, Warren!

They made it based on racial data from the players! There IS a debate!

(03-17-2015, 02:58 PM)Bryn Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-17-2015, 10:21 AM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote: [ -> ]The trick is knowing where to find the Highlander soft side. We all have 'em.

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*lays down on the floor*

Highlander being too much woman to handle? BLASPHEMY!!!!