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Do what you want, who cares? If no one likes it, just go back to the drawing board or give it up.

(09-22-2015, 02:38 AM)Zekikikikiki Wrote: [ -> ]Do what you want, who cares? If no one likes it, just go back to the drawing board or give it up.

im still gonna be a vamp just wanted feedback on possible origin stories for how they would come about and i got some pretty good tidbits.

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Vampire Lampern seafood itemJust as the name implies Vampire Lampern is indeed a sucker of blood, using its multiple rows of teeth to latch onto its prey, whether it be on land or sea, and bore a hole from which to drink. 

Obviously the term vampire is in fact a term that refers to the drinking of blood.

If you made a deal with a voidsent for further power it is not entirely implausible for them to add a catch to drink blood as a way to destroy a person's humamity.

(09-22-2015, 02:41 AM)S Wrote: [ -> ]Quote
Vampire Lampern seafood itemJust as the name implies Vampire Lampern is indeed a sucker of blood, using its multiple rows of teeth to latch onto its prey, whether it be on land or sea, and bore a hole from which to drink. 

Obviously the term vampire is in fact a term that refers to the drinking of blood.

If you made a deal with a voidsent for further power it is not entirely implausible for them to add a catch to drink blood as a way to destroy a person's humamity.

Theoretically they'd have to have a vampire legend, otherwise they would just call it a 'bloodsucking' lampern. Or something similar.

Time to retire to my coffin guys lol thanks for all the responses even the disbelievers were central to the secrecy of vamps lol keep denying its what we want. And to the person who made fun of my last name which is my actual IRL name i hope all your data gets erased
 

I feel like I just came down from a bad trip.

(09-22-2015, 02:47 AM)SessionZero Wrote: [ -> ]I feel like I just came down from a bad trip.

i feel like i need a drink. care to volunteer a neck or artery?

(09-22-2015, 02:47 AM)SessionZero Wrote: [ -> ]I feel like I just came down from a bad trip.

And it's all over now.

(09-22-2015, 02:43 AM)McBeefâ„¢ Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-22-2015, 02:41 AM)S Wrote: [ -> ]Quote
Vampire Lampern seafood itemJust as the name implies Vampire Lampern is indeed a sucker of blood, using its multiple rows of teeth to latch onto its prey, whether it be on land or sea, and bore a hole from which to drink. 

Obviously the term vampire is in fact a term that refers to the drinking of blood.

If you made a deal with a voidsent for further power it is not entirely implausible for them to add a catch to drink blood as a way to destroy a person's humamity.

Theoretically they'd have to have a vampire legend, otherwise they would just call it a 'bloodsucking' lampern. Or something similar.

That's what I meant ;;>.> 

Basically even though we don't see a real vampire in game the term does mean there's legend behind it. Which means most likely if someone is sucking blood from a living being, that they are most likely going to be seen as a vampire by the average person. 

Though they may not be a vampire based on Eorzea folk lore, there are lots of dark powers that come with some kind of catch which could be the traditional strengths and weaknesses of a vampire. 

We have the tools to make a literal vampire, but due to the fact we don't see a real one in game calling yourself a vampire is a major rp sin? Despite the fact there are possibilities to making one by all definition of the term. 

Eva's words to S'imba may have inspired me to play devil's advocate. /does Eva fist pump of social justice.

Vampires. Hm. Well..I'll give my two gil on this matter. The first major question would be 'is it possible to create something akin to a vampire in game?'. My reply to that would be very likely yes. Aether exists in the body and spirit, and it's likely blood can be used as a method to transfer Aether form one source to another as a catalyst. So as has been stated, someone becoming Voidsent-possessed or somehow enhanced could create an individual who gains increased physical or magical ability, and in turn has to consume blood (drawing Aether from it) in a method much like a vampire would. However, traditional vampire weaknesses such as sunlight and running water likely wouldn't do anything to the person so afflicted at all as it's more like a demonic boon than an actual vampiric curse. So it would more be an Aether-eater who uses blood as the transfer method than what we consider a traditional vampire by our own real world legends.

The major difference is there's one other thing that most vampires are able to do that such a creature wouldn't be able to. And that's create other vampires by the usual method. Voidsent curses, from what we've seen, are tailored to the individual (Amandine for example). While she attracted other voidsent with her presence, there's no indication she turned anyone into one in the mansion in Haukke. This means that a vampire as exampled above, in order to make new vampires would likely have to convince an individual to make a similar contract to the one they made, thus making vampires in this game more or less a type of voidsent cult rather than undead. And actually, if you think about it, with what we've seen with the Lambs, a vampire-inspired voidsent cult might actually make a fun story arc or something. But as far as our more traditional Nosferatu, it's unlikely it'd be the same.

Such a fantastic troll thread, I applaud the man that started this. This was the best thing to read after a shitty night's sleep.

Just to sound like I'm actually being productive in this thread (because not contributing to the thread is an offense apparently), as everyone has stated there's no such vampires in the context of real life myth. There is however a play on the concept, which is shown in Haukke manor and even the information on the Succubus. They're known to take over dead bodies and become that person once again, sounding like them and acting like them perfectly and they all do this just to steal aether and cause torment (cus that's what the Void does, make babies cry). Do Incubus do this as well? Unknown..

I'll also state the "do what you want, don't listen to everyone" statement is by far the worst thing to say when someone is asking for feedback. I'd honestly avoid it unless you're going down the route of venturing into voidsent shenanigans.

(09-22-2015, 02:26 AM)Verad Wrote: [ -> ]What is ruined by the inclusion of vampires?

Nothing is ruined, not exactly. People are just resistant to someone taking an idea and shoving it into a setting where it isn't explicitly supported. This is exacerbated when you have something like the OP, which makes a bunch of concessions to the lore to justify a thing that doesn't already exist, and could really be done in any number of other games or settings.

People will want to roleplay things they like, but two great tastes don't always taste great together.

Closer to the topic: As others mentioned, Voidsent are the closest thing we'll get to vampires unless SE comes right out and does more with them. We know they're drawn to corpses and it isn't unreasonable at all to have a voidtouched person crave blood. Just don't give them a list of superpowers with the offset "weakness" of things that already kill everyone else. Don't confuse vulnerability with a weakness: Conventional vampires were only able to be killed by stake, decapitation or fire. They literally didn't die to anything else. They were unkillable unless you did these things to them.

I didn't think this needed to be explicitly stated, but don't play unkillable things in RP.

Wow.....so I guess this vampire thread didnt cast flame shield (que cheesy drum).

OT though I would say there are plenty of ways to go about making an unofficial vampire in the game without HURRDURR breaking lore per se. Like mentioned already how your character functions could be explained with various void touched/aether proficient or reliant/any sort of function you want or need to make yourself happy.

Then as other people pointed out the word and description for a vampire already exists within the lore. Does that make you a vampire SE made? Nope. Could your character take inspiration from the word or in game descriptions and take to calling themselves that because they want to? Yup.

Ultimately it IS your money and you CAN do whatever you want in a game YOU paid for, and to Hell with everyone else saying nay. The issue with that approach however is that you typically dont join a MMO RP community to play by yourself. You can Rp your own head canon all day and no one can bother you about it, but what it comes down to is that you want other people to accept and play with your character.

I PERSONALLY tend to approach Rps with a set of questions in my mind.

1) Is this something I would find fun to play as or with?
2) Is this something that will be more than just a "soda fizz" phase, where something is new and exciting and then the entire novelty just dies off later and no one really has a satisfying conclusion or takes anything worthwhile from it?
3) Will I have to retcon this later or will this end up destroying my or someone else's character in the long run because it will not be able to function after devoting themselves so deeply into it?

Usually, if the answer to any of those questions is no, them I dont want to bother with the idea, and if the idea is mine, I axe it.

Not saying at all that you should do the same, but it is my opinion that if you are seriously trying to bring a concept to life then you need to think about what it is you are really proposing to someone, and how the things you would like to happen would affect someone else that would even give it the time of day.

Your Rp experience is yours, but the second you involve someone else in your ideas it affects more than just you, and I believe that should be considered more than whether or not it fits into the lore yet.

People take their characters seriously, so the second you present something even slightly potentially destructive you open a can of fire breathing worms.

(09-22-2015, 04:34 AM)Spethah Wrote: [ -> ]Such a fantastic troll thread, I applaud the man that started this. This was the best thing to read after a shitty night's sleep.

Just to sound like I'm actually being productive in this thread (because not contributing to the thread is an offense apparently), as everyone has stated there's no such vampires in the context of real life myth. There is however a play on the concept, which is shown in Haukke manor and even the information on the Succubus. They're known to take over dead bodies and become that person once again, sounding like them and acting like them perfectly and they all do this just to steal aether and cause torment (cus that's what the Void does, make babies cry). Do Incubus do this as well? Unknown..

I'll also state the "do what you want, don't listen to everyone" statement is by far the worst thing to say when someone is asking for feedback. I'd honestly avoid it unless you're going down the route of venturing into voidsent shenanigans.

ur so quick to cry troll for no reason other than that its a subject that hasnt been brought up yet. may i interest in some popcorn to go with that salt?

(09-22-2015, 02:44 AM)celestial_mage Wrote: [ -> ]Time to retire to my coffin guys lol thanks for all the responses even the disbelievers were central to the secrecy of vamps lol keep denying its what we want. And to the person who made fun of my last name which is my actual IRL name i hope all your data gets erased
 

Ah, so I was correct with my earlier hypothesis then: you're not actually interested in taking feedback into account at all - you simply intend to latch onto those who say 'do what you want' and ignore everything else.

So either you're a troll (which I'm reluctant to imply since I prefer to give everybody the benefit of the doubt) or you're simply being deliberately dense and argumentative. This entire thread seems rather pointless at this point.

If you don't want to take feedback into account...why are you actually here? Many people have pointed out how you could play a 'vampire' in a way that would fit FFXIV without being too jarring. If you want to just go off and do your own thing - which seems likely given that you admitted that you mostly intend to do this idea with your friends alone - then just go and do it.

You don't need permission. You do, however, have no right to demand that everybody else accepts your idea or finds it amazing.