(02-07-2017, 09:29 AM)Aegir Wrote: [ -> ] (02-07-2017, 09:01 AM)Tyndles Wrote: [ -> ]2. Â If they are trying to SERIOUSLY RP as that character? Â My character will treat them as someone delusional, touched in the head or drunk. Â Because thats the only way it would make sense.
I keep seeing people post this in every thread this is brought up. I find this reaction to be mean spirited and contemptuous. And it doesn't seem to be in the spirit of role play. It's weird where people draw the line between "okay, I'll pretend your character is/has this, but if you say they are/have this I'm going to be derisive and try to make you feel bad.
It's a very clear line to draw. "This is my original character that I created for role-play in this world." vs. "This is not my character, it already has a story, but Im going to just pretend that lore doesn't exist."
(02-07-2017, 05:44 PM)Aegir Wrote: [ -> ] (02-07-2017, 11:25 AM)Virella Wrote: [ -> ] (02-07-2017, 11:12 AM)Aegir Wrote: [ -> ]I guess I just don't see treating someone's character who is not drunk or insane as being drunk or insane because I don't like their character idea as diplomatic.
What do you suggest otherwise for people to do IC if they don't want to deal with people roleplaying NPCs? I think beyond flat out ignoring them, tell them to shove it OOC, there's very few legit IC options left to handle the situation beyond writing them off as insane.
There's little to win here if people are not consenting to their roleplay. In your opinion you're rude if you try to handle it IC by writing them off as insane/drunk. If you ignore them, you're rude according to some. If you play along with them while you don't want to, the player who's approached doesn't think it's enjoyable roleplay and just wishes it didn't happen. If you retcon, you're being mean in some people's eyes as well.
So what do you propose then? Because I really can't see any winners here if you don't want to roleplay with NPCs and they still insist onto RPing with/around you.
I think if people told them (politely) OOC that they are not interested, and they stay around despite that, you are in your full right to just ignore or write the character off as insane at that point. Consent is the main key here. If I'm not interested in RPing with x person because of x reason (including them RPing a NPC), that's my full right to do such, and those of others as well.
I guess I see open RP as an uncontrollable environment, like real life, where you aren't going to like or agree with everything everyone is doing around you. I don't have the automatic assumption that if a person plays X (whether X is a canon character, a White Mage/Dragoon/Fist of Rhalgr, voidsent/voidtouched, whatever) they're automatically going to suck and I'm not going to like it. I've met a lot of interesting characters with some really weird backgrounds and I'd kick myself in hindsight if I hadn't given them a chance.
I've never had a canon rp-er shove themselves down my throat before like you have, but I think I would handle it in the same way I would an aggressive ERPer or someone behaving inappropriately. I'd probably just ignore them. I wouldn't try to bully their idea by going: get a load of this nutjob, though.Â
I'm not sure where in my previous post I wrote that you /have/ to RP with them. If I made that statement, I apologize. I feel like I pissed you off and that wasn't my intention.
Rereading this response and it doesn't look like anyone is angry, just trying to explain their point of view. That there is a disagreement on how certain rp preferences should be handled should not be interpreted as bullying. I think what people are trying to get across is that if they cannot wrap their heads around someone playing as an NPC they should not be forced to accept it into their rp just as those who like to rp outside basic lore should not be forced to adhere to a strict set of guidelines for what kind of character they can have.
I think that's all anyone is really trying to say
(02-07-2017, 06:24 PM)Tyndles Wrote: [ -> ] (02-07-2017, 09:29 AM)Aegir Wrote: [ -> ] (02-07-2017, 09:01 AM)Tyndles Wrote: [ -> ]2. Â If they are trying to SERIOUSLY RP as that character? Â My character will treat them as someone delusional, touched in the head or drunk. Â Because thats the only way it would make sense.
I keep seeing people post this in every thread this is brought up. I find this reaction to be mean spirited and contemptuous. And it doesn't seem to be in the spirit of role play. It's weird where people draw the line between "okay, I'll pretend your character is/has this, but if you say they are/have this I'm going to be derisive and try to make you feel bad.
It's a very clear line to draw. "This is my original character that I created for role-play in this world." vs. "This is not my character, it already has a story, but Im going to just pretend that lore doesn't exist."
I don't think people are intentionally disregarding canon most of the time barring continuing to play the dead folks. That's the problem with fan interpretations of existing characters, though. One of these is questionably writing fan fiction, and the other is definitely writing fan fiction.
I think this is a pretty dividing issue and would avoid role-playing a npc just to avoid any fallout. Sure you might not have an issue with it, but you don't know if others will.
I recall an event that an RPer held years back where the Sultana showed up and, while it was tastefully done, probably caused more headaches for the planners than it was worth. The fallout wasn't very pretty.
So, I advise just let Square do the npc thing and craft a OC. It's more challenging Imo and far more rewarding.