I'd definitely consider making a poll. That being said, I also think it may be wise to wait before choosing. I only say that because it's only designated servers that will receive the transfer benefits. Without knowing what those servers are, people will likely be less enticed, especially with the FC related benefits being added to those designated servers.
I agree that making a decision right now is not the best, but there is a lot of activity going on that isn't widely known on the RP-C. I'd like to change that so that there is a better informed decision when a poll is put into place.
Thank you for putting this up for the discussion of us smaller servers. I need to rest my eyes for a bit (been staring at my screen since 8am this morning and its now 5pm), but I will be glad to speak up a bit about Mateus, if others from the server don't speak up before I do-- But here is a little I can offer.
All I can say is we been around for a bit now, at least since the Q4 of 2016. Our thread here on Hydaelyn has around 2k views and we share similar rp styles to Besaid, or what Besaid was like and the early days of Balmung.
I have already gotten about 5 PMs as of today looking to join up, 3 which have joined our Discord channel which we use to post events and keep everyone in touch (along with list community rules), and just invited 2 new people to the LS.
We have a total of 90+ members and around 20-25 people on as of this writing. I have seen it get up to 40 members during the weekend and even higher on some days. We have had some growing pains, but these are to be expected. I am not going to hide that, but we manage to always get by them and keep having fun. If one person trips up, someone is there to lend a hand.
These are a great group of people. Mateus as a community is a great group of people. Nothing is not without its problems, but its how we deal with those problems, is how we are able to keep marching along.
If nothing else, at least come give us a look and if you decide Mateus is not for you, that is fine as well. There are Siren, Fairy, and others and I know they too are just as eager as we are in their own way. I just sadly can't speak for them.
I fundamentally oppose designating another RP server and encourage all RPers to concentrate RP on Balmung. The only reason why a person should not RP on Balmung is if they are new player to the game and therefore physically cannot access the server at the present time.
The greatest threat to the long-term health of the RP community in FFXIV is disorganization and fragmentation across numerous servers. Server choice should not be an artificial limitation that constricts who and how you can roleplay. Unfortunately, on smaller servers, RPers do not enjoy the same breadth of choice in terms of in-character content and styles of roleplay.
It is critical that RPers stick together and form as large of a community as possible. This creates greater RP opportunities and a more meaningful community.
(05-17-2017, 08:40 PM)Sig Wrote: [ -> ]I fundamentally oppose designating another RP server and encourage all RPers to concentrate RP on Balmung. The only reason why a person should not RP on Balmung is if they are new player to the game and therefore physically cannot access the server at the present time.
The greatest threat to the long-term health of the RP community in FFXIV is disorganization and fragmentation across numerous servers. Server choice should not be an artificial limitation that constricts who and how you can roleplay. Unfortunately, on smaller servers, RPers do not enjoy the same breadth of choice in terms of in-character content and styles of roleplay.
It is critical that RPers stick together and form as large of a community as possible. This creates greater RP opportunities and a more meaningful community.
Sig, I am not sure if you are aware but currently new players are unable to join Balmung. New character creation and server transfers are completely disabled for the foreseeable future. There is a need right now for an alternative and this thread is to help people make an educated decision on which server would fit them best.
If you would like to discuss the current situation with the server lock down, please go here:Â
http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread.php?tid=19397Â . In the mean time, I would like to please keep this thread clear from such discussions so that clear information can be given to players seeking a new refuge.
(05-17-2017, 08:40 PM)Sig Wrote: [ -> ]I fundamentally oppose designating another RP server and encourage all RPers to concentrate RP on Balmung. The only reason why a person should not RP on Balmung is if they are new player to the game and therefore physically cannot access the server at the present time.
The greatest threat to the long-term health of the RP community in FFXIV is disorganization and fragmentation across numerous servers. Server choice should not be an artificial limitation that constricts who and how you can roleplay. Unfortunately, on smaller servers, RPers do not enjoy the same breadth of choice in terms of in-character content and styles of roleplay.
It is critical that RPers stick together and form as large of a community as possible. This creates greater RP opportunities and a more meaningful community.
Uh.. the whole point of this is because Balmung is now closed and we no longer have options for new people. I don't think anyone has suggested a mass exodus from Balmung and been taken seriously.
EDIT: On topic, my vote is for Mateus. It's the only server of the current option I've seen that's got a decent sized community and has actually put in the work to advertise and be seen.
Personally, I think I will answer the Ban for new Roleplayers with the simpliest solution:
Fuck you Square, I'm giving my money to Blizzard again. They are absolute unable to write a semi-engaging story, but at least they are able to assigne roleplay servers right from the beginning and don't take 18$ for a by now worthless servertransfer.
(05-17-2017, 08:50 PM)Etadhara Rhel Wrote: [ -> ]Personally, I think I will answer the Ban for new Roleplayers with the simpliest solution:
Fuck you Square, I'm giving my money to Blizzard again. They are absolute unable to write a semi-engaging story, but at least they are able to assigne roleplay servers right from the beginning and don't take 18$ for a by now worthless servertransfer.
That's your choice, but I don't know if it's a helpful contribution to this particular thread. It's important to remember that it was never intended by Square Enix as a "ban for roleplayers" - in fact, the restrictions apply to 5 other servers, as well. It is - as far as I can discern - an emergency measure designed to ease the login queues and server stability problems that tend to surround a new expansion release, such as the upcoming Stormblood release.
Balmung's predicament is, essentially, a problem at least partially of the RP community's own making. And I think it's one we should - and
can - work together to equally partially solve, by creating and/or encouraging the creation of a viable alternative for people who aren't on Balmung already. Going forward, if this alternative attains the value I think we should be hoping for from it, it will remain a valid option for new roleplayers, and a valid alternative for existing roleplayers - whatever their reasons for desiring one.
I understood discussing the nature of that alternative as the point of this thread.
Ah, RP server selection drama...how I missed thee. Most MMOs only get to see you for a single fleeting moment. FFXIV is fortunate enough to see you on
three separate occasions. Truly an oldie but goodie.
I can only testify to two communities: Siren and Mateus.
Siren: I was only here maybe a month or so. In terms of numbers, pretty good compared to others out there. But I got the impression only 5 or so people in their linkshell actually actively RPed. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can only comment on what I saw. I also didn't see many, if any, IC linkshells. Everything was OOC. They've also had a pretty heavy amount of OOC drama and leadership has shifted multiple times in a very short span of time. I don't even know who the new 'representative' of Siren RP is, and I wonder if they even know...
Official Website: http://sirenrp.enjin.com/
Linkshell Profile: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/...672550899/
RPC Ad: No active one...
Discord: Yes, rarely used...
Mateus: Very passionate group that has fought like crazy to stay alive even as Balmung sucked up everything around it. Their passion is what drew me to them. They have something like 5+ active RP groups with varying themes. Healthy population in comparison to others. Need to improve on open world RP (they're aware of this already I think) and get out of the houses so much. Also need more variety of RP events outside of just tavern nights (also probably aware of).
Official Website: None?
Linkshell Profile: http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/...138371308/ (they have a separate linkshell for alts)
RPC Ad: http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread.php?tid=18115
Discord: Yes, high usage
(05-17-2017, 09:00 PM)Kilieit Wrote: [ -> ] (05-17-2017, 08:50 PM)E Wrote: [ -> ]Personally, I think I will answer the Ban for new Roleplayers with the simpliest solution:
Fuck you Square, I'm giving my money to Blizzard again. They are absolute unable to write a semi-engaging story, but at least they are able to assigne roleplay servers right from the beginning and don't take 18$ for a by now worthless servertransfer.
That's your choice, but I don't know if it's a helpful contribution to this particular thread. It's important to remember that it was never intended by Square Enix as a "ban for roleplayers" - in fact, the restrictions apply to 5 other servers, as well. It is - as far as I can discern - an emergency measure designed to ease the login queues and server stability problems that tend to surround a new expansion release, such as the upcoming Stormblood release.
Balmung's predicament is, essentially, a problem at least partially of the RP community's own making. And I think it's one we should - and can - work together to equally partially solve, by creating and/or encouraging the creation of a viable alternative for people who aren't on Balmung already. Going forward, if this alternative attains the value I think we should be hoping for from it, it will remain a valid option for new roleplayers, and a valid alternative for existing roleplayers - whatever their reasons for desiring one.
I understood discussing the nature of that alternative as the point of this thread.
I personally think that voting with my wallet is another good way to tackle the problem. If square doesn't wants my money from monthly subscription and server transfer, I simply give it to more RP friendly companies. If square has any grasp on the RP Community, they knew what they were doing and I think the best way to answer this would be to buy other products or try out some MMOs we left behind before. I think the best roleplayers could do to support newer roleplayers is to not support squares product anymore and recommed other, RP friendly MMOs to them. I will give World of Warcraft RP another try.
(05-17-2017, 09:24 PM)E Wrote: [ -> ] (05-17-2017, 09:00 PM)Kilieit Wrote: [ -> ] (05-17-2017, 08:50 PM)E Wrote: [ -> ]Personally, I think I will answer the Ban for new Roleplayers with the simpliest solution:
Fuck you Square, I'm giving my money to Blizzard again. They are absolute unable to write a semi-engaging story, but at least they are able to assigne roleplay servers right from the beginning and don't take 18$ for a by now worthless servertransfer.
That's your choice, but I don't know if it's a helpful contribution to this particular thread. It's important to remember that it was never intended by Square Enix as a "ban for roleplayers" - in fact, the restrictions apply to 5 other servers, as well. It is - as far as I can discern - an emergency measure designed to ease the login queues and server stability problems that tend to surround a new expansion release, such as the upcoming Stormblood release.
Balmung's predicament is, essentially, a problem at least partially of the RP community's own making. And I think it's one we should - and can - work together to equally partially solve, by creating and/or encouraging the creation of a viable alternative for people who aren't on Balmung already. Going forward, if this alternative attains the value I think we should be hoping for from it, it will remain a valid option for new roleplayers, and a valid alternative for existing roleplayers - whatever their reasons for desiring one.
I understood discussing the nature of that alternative as the point of this thread.
I personally think that voting with my wallet is another good way to tackle the problem. If square doesn't wants my money from monthly subscription and server transfer, I simply give it to more RP friendly companies. If square has any grasp on the RP Community, they knew what they were doing and I think the best way to answer this would be to buy other protects or try out some MMOs we left behind before. I think the best roleplayers could do to support newer roleplayers is to not support squares product anymore and recommed other, RP friendly MMOs to them.
This is a valid opinion, but this is NOT the thread for such discussion. Please go to the server megathread to discuss the issue. This thread is for the merits and opinions on the alternative server communities only, not for debating the repercussions of the server lockdown.
I'm in agreement, there needs to be a place designated for new RPers to XIV to congregate. We need to be able to recommend somewhere to new players until Balmung's population stabilizes and they are able to open it to new characters again. (And even after, if people do not want to join Balmung due to its size).
Once one is decided, there should be a new button in the FC/LS tabs for them. There should be support for them (even a splitting of Event and Seeking Connection forums, etcetera, into Balmung, New NA Server Option, New EU Sever Option, and Other). If we want the RPC to be/remain the "XIV RP community" rather than just "The RP community on Balmung" 's go to website, we need to do this.
However, when it comes to choosing that we should take input from various people on other servers, or those who have been to other servers (like Kylin above), and use that rather than posting a poll that anyone can vote on. At the moment I think I will personally recommend Mateus (and Faerie?) until I see more feedback here.
Edit: Reading comprehension is hard tonight. Overall: I support OP's approach, but think the RPC management needs to react too.
I too will cast my vote for mateus
Hi all!Â
On the topic of alternate servers I've actually taken the liberty (along with some friends of mine) to start bringing together the Faerie community. We have a newly made website (Â
https://ffxiv-faerie-rp.enjin.com/ ) a LS that is steadily growing with 40+ members and a discord server as well with around 35+ so that everyone can stay in contact. So far we've been working on setting up hubs, there's already a dedicated player made tavern and more are in the works. Please, if you have need of a place to stay RP wise and would like to help build a rapidly growing community I implore you to check it out if you're thinking of trying out a different server instead of Balmung.Â
Personally I found it too difficult to even try to get onto Balmung, especially as a newer player, so instead I sought out RP of my own on Faerie. Although it was harder to find it's definitely there and hopefully now easier for people to access.