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RE: [Gilgamesh] Why not Behemoth as our non-legacy server? - Nel Celestine - 08-05-2013
(08-05-2013, 10:42 PM)Xerek Wrote: The only reason the topic of leaving Gilgamesh was brought up is because of the Reddit and 4Chan communities, something that was unknown as of the time of the vote. I hope that clears up the confusion.
http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread.php?tid=2540&pid=30825#pid30825
http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread.php?tid=2540&pid=30829#pid30829
It was known, during the poll.
RE: [Gilgamesh] Why not Behemoth as our non-legacy server? - Selsix - 08-05-2013
(08-05-2013, 11:00 PM)Nel Celestine Wrote:(08-05-2013, 10:42 PM)Xerek Wrote: The only reason the topic of leaving Gilgamesh was brought up is because of the Reddit and 4Chan communities, something that was unknown as of the time of the vote. I hope that clears up the confusion.
http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread.php?tid=2540&pid=30825#pid30825
http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread.php?tid=2540&pid=30829#pid30829
It was known, during the poll.
Judging by the fact that the original post had 40 votes for Gilgamesh, I'd say it'll take at least that many for us to officially change it.
RE: [Gilgamesh] Why not Behemoth as our non-legacy server? - Freyar - 08-05-2013
(08-05-2013, 10:51 PM)Tooplex Wrote:(08-05-2013, 10:48 PM)Xerek Wrote: Again, please stop derailing this thread. It's not about discussing why the Gilgamesh community exists.
Just a question btw, Why is your FC on Gilgamesh if you are so opposed to being on Gilgamesh?
He's concerned about how populated the server will be. Major communities all seem to be electing the SAME server.
RE: [Gilgamesh] Why not Behemoth as our non-legacy server? - Vee - 08-05-2013
There are plenty of us still planning to play on Gilgamesh so why not stick around? We have events planned and everything, it's not as if there won't be RP there. If someone is being a douche bag, then put them on ignore. As for "bleeding people left and right", as far as I can tell the Gilgamesh directory has grown significantly.
I'm not the type of person to just walk away from a server because I think people there might not like me or my friends roleplaying. If that were the case no one would roleplay ever.Â
Real talk. If you want to roleplay with some cool people on Gilgamesh they will be there. If you want to roleplay with some cool people on Balmung, they will be there. See how the pieces fall after release, and just stick to the plan. Getting cold feet on your wedding day is just embarrassing.
RE: [Gilgamesh] Why not Behemoth as our non-legacy server? - Selsix - 08-05-2013
I'm not sure exactly why a massive pop is a BAD thing. Is lag the concern? Or do the servers lock up after a certain amount of people are online?
RE: [Gilgamesh] Why not Behemoth as our non-legacy server? - Ashren Dotharl - 08-05-2013
(08-05-2013, 10:59 PM)Selsix Wrote:Level Sync prevents this.(08-05-2013, 10:53 PM)Kaln Wrote: it's going to be just as much a trailblazing for us, as it is for you.
That is where you are 100% completely incorrect.
On a realm where NOBODY has max level characters, if someone is having trouble with something? It'll be get some friends of equal level, and band together to conquer the hurdle.
On a legacy realm? It'll be "Hold on guys, lemme switch to level 50 PLD lel".
Even if a lot of legacy players aren't max level, people will still call max level friends, etc... Sure, this'll happen on non-legacy realms too... Eventually. Not for a little while. I plan to enjoy that while I can.
See the problem?
RE: [Gilgamesh] Why not Behemoth as our non-legacy server? - Freyar - 08-05-2013
(08-05-2013, 11:06 PM)Selsix Wrote: I'm not sure exactly why a massive pop is a BAD thing. Is lag the concern? Or do the servers lock up after a certain amount of people are online?Servers can lock, and I'm betting that they will when 4chan, NeoGAF, Reddit, RPC, and a few other groups all try to join the same one.
RE: [Gilgamesh] Why not Behemoth as our non-legacy server? - Ellie - 08-05-2013
The debate over whether or not it's reasonable to prefer a non-legacy server over a legacy server is never going to get anywhere. No matter how prejudiced and ill-informed you believe the reasons for wanting to roll on a non-legacy server, the fact of the matter is that server choice is a matter of personal preference that everyone has a right to determine on their own.
That said, I'm imposing a moratorium on any discussion related to the legacy vs non-legacy debate here, and that goes for replying to such discussions as well. If you don't want an off-topic discussion to derail the thread, then please stop responding to it.
Thank you.
RE: [Gilgamesh] Why not Behemoth as our non-legacy server? - Orlog - 08-05-2013
I think it's something you could probably leave to the people who're rolling on Gilgamesh after everyone's got a feel for the sever and community. I'm sure there will be sever transfers again at some point after launch, so I honestly don't see it as a huge deal. If, in the small possibility, it turns out that the RP can't thrive because of other internet groups taking over in an non-RP fashion, I'm sure things'll get figured out in the end.
Selsix Wrote:On a legacy realm? It'll be "Hold on guys, lemme switch to level 50 PLD lel".
I'm honestly not a person to jump on anyone going specifically to one sever or another; it's really your choice. But, when people just start throwing out false information to try to lure people away from a decisions it honestly comes off as petty.
Anyway, just to clear things up: That's not even kind of how the system is set up. When doing group content outside of FATES (dungeons and what-have-you) you are automatically synched to the appropriate level. Even in FATES, you can outlevel being able to contribute to the progress of the event at all and pretty much have to use the synch feature to participate.
On top of that, there are numerous amounts of people who're going to be leveling classes outside of their mains that haven't been touched at all. I, myself, am going to be starting up Anarchist as well as Gladiator and Thaumaturge, which are barely outside of level 15. So, yeah, this is blatantly false.
But, yeah! I have confidence that those rolling on Gilgamesh will solve any issues as they come.
RE: [Gilgamesh] Why not Behemoth as our non-legacy server? - Kossori - 08-05-2013
(08-05-2013, 11:10 PM)Ellie Wrote: The debate over whether or not it's reasonable to prefer a non-legacy server over a legacy server is never going to get anywhere. No matter how prejudiced and ill-informed you believe anyone's reasons for wanting to roll on a non-legacy server, the fact of the matter is that server choice is a matter of personal preference that everyone has a right to determine on their own.
That said, I'm imposing a moratorium on any discussion related to the legacy vs non-legacy debate here, and that goes for replying to such discussions as well. If you don't want an off-topic discussion to derail the thread, then please stop responding to it.
Thank you.
This is why we love ya.
RE: [Gilgamesh] Why not Behemoth as our non-legacy server? - Tooplex - 08-05-2013
(08-05-2013, 11:06 PM)Vee Wrote: There are plenty of us still planning to play on Gilgamesh so why not stick around? We have events planned and everything, it's not as if there won't be RP there. If someone is being a douche bag, then put them on ignore. As for "bleeding people left and right", as far as I can tell the Gilgamesh directory has grown significantly.
I'm not the type of person to just walk away from a server because I think people there might not like me or my friends roleplaying. If that were the case no one would roleplay ever.Â
Real talk. If you want to roleplay with some cool people on Gilgamesh they will be there. If you want to roleplay with some cool people on Balmung, they will be there. See how the pieces fall after release, and just stick to the plan. Getting cold feet on your wedding day is just embarrassing.
Most people arnt worried about the TYPE of people playing, they are worried about the amount of people playing. Its all well and good wanting to play with RP people but you cant do that if you cant even get in the damn server.
(08-05-2013, 11:04 PM)Freyar Wrote:(08-05-2013, 10:51 PM)Tooplex Wrote:(08-05-2013, 10:48 PM)Xerek Wrote: Again, please stop derailing this thread. It's not about discussing why the Gilgamesh community exists.
Just a question btw, Why is your FC on Gilgamesh if you are so opposed to being on Gilgamesh?
He's concerned about how populated the server will be. Major communities all seem to be electing the SAME server.
I do know that, I was just asking why he doesnt elect to move his FC to a different server.
RE: [Gilgamesh] Why not Behemoth as our non-legacy server? - Spiritual Machine - 08-05-2013
(08-05-2013, 10:59 PM)Selsix Wrote:No.(08-05-2013, 10:53 PM)Kaln Wrote: it's going to be just as much a trailblazing for us, as it is for you.
That is where you are 100% completely incorrect.
On a realm where NOBODY has max level characters, if someone is having trouble with something? It'll be get some friends of equal level, and band together to conquer the hurdle.
On a legacy realm? It'll be "Hold on guys, lemme switch to level 50 PLD lel".
Even if a lot of legacy players aren't max level, people will still call max level friends, etc... Sure, this'll happen on non-legacy realms too... Eventually. Not for a little while. I plan to enjoy that while I can.
See the problem?
Most content scales you down to its level anyway, not unlike other games.
EDIT: Someone else already mentioned the Level Sync system. My bad.
(08-05-2013, 11:03 PM)Selsix Wrote:Forty of you won't get the word out to all of the people on the beta forums and elsewhere who are advertising for the Gilgamesh community, and forty of you won't change the minds of all of those people who are holding fast to the idea of soldiering on into Gilgamesh.(08-05-2013, 11:00 PM)Nel Celestine Wrote:(08-05-2013, 10:42 PM)Xerek Wrote: The only reason the topic of leaving Gilgamesh was brought up is because of the Reddit and 4Chan communities, something that was unknown as of the time of the vote. I hope that clears up the confusion.
http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread.php?tid=2540&pid=30825#pid30825
http://ffxiv-roleplayers.com/showthread.php?tid=2540&pid=30829#pid30829
It was known, during the poll.
Judging by the fact that the original post had 40 votes for Gilgamesh, I'd say it'll take at least that many for us to officially change it.
You're well past the point of no return. The community doesn't have a leader or a website, and the RPC admin already told you how you could go about changing what y'all already decided on, and it's not gonna be via a poll.
This thread is looking pretty vain now, don't you think?
RE: [Gilgamesh] Why not Behemoth as our non-legacy server? - Selsix - 08-05-2013
(08-05-2013, 11:09 PM)Freyar Wrote:(08-05-2013, 11:06 PM)Selsix Wrote: I'm not sure exactly why a massive pop is a BAD thing. Is lag the concern? Or do the servers lock up after a certain amount of people are online?Servers can lock, and I'm betting that they will when 4chan, NeoGAF, Reddit, RPC, and a few other groups all try to join the same one.
I doubt this. Sure those communities are VERY large altogether. But you have to take into account how many people FROM those communities will be playing.
I honestly don't see server load being a huge problem.
RE: [Gilgamesh] Why not Behemoth as our non-legacy server? - Freyar - 08-05-2013
(08-05-2013, 11:13 PM)Tooplex Wrote: I do know that, I was just asking why he doesnt elect to move his FC to a different server.
Perhaps it isn't only his choice? (I'm not familiar with his position in his FC or anything, just stating that perhaps publicly not everything is known.)
(08-05-2013, 11:20 PM)Selsix Wrote: I doubt this. Sure those communities are VERY large altogether. But you have to take into account how many people FROM those communities will be playing.
I honestly don't see server load being a huge problem.
If it was just one or two, I'd not be as concerned about capacity.
RE: [Gilgamesh] Why not Behemoth as our non-legacy server? - Tooplex - 08-05-2013
(08-05-2013, 11:21 PM)Freyar Wrote:Â(08-05-2013, 11:13 PM)Tooplex Wrote: I do know that, I was just asking why he doesnt elect to move his FC to a different server.
Perhaps it isn't only his choice? (I'm not familiar with his position in his FC or anything, just stating that perhaps publicly not everything is known.)
(08-05-2013, 11:20 PM)Selsix Wrote: I doubt this. Sure those communities are VERY large altogether. But you have to take into account how many people FROM those communities will be playing.
I honestly don't see server load being a huge problem.
If it was just one or two, I'd not be as concerned about capacity.
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I guess thats fair enough if thats his reason
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Technically its 4 communitys not including the RPC community