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Ashe · **10-27-2015, 04:26 PM**

(10-27-2015, 04:16 PM)Nebbs Wrote:
(10-27-2015, 04:12 PM)Ashe Wrote:
(10-27-2015, 04:09 PM)Nebbs Wrote:
(10-27-2015, 03:24 PM)Ashe Wrote:
(10-27-2015, 03:20 PM)Nebbs Wrote: How can you tell the ninja, they don't look like ninja.

I would play some other "cover" class and the Ninja out in secret. Maybe someone gets suspicious? etc..

Weather I am doing this already i could not say
That makes no sense...
Ninja don't operate on their own. So you can't just be a ninja, walking around without a master. That would make you a rogue...

Sure you can have a master, even be part of an organisation.

But also maybe your master is dead?
Then you find a new master. Ninja are all about serving others without the utmost loyalty. That's kind of their thing.

Maybe for you but there is scope to play them differently.

The point is should they walk around saying "I am ninja"?

No, the point is not for them to say "I am a ninja."
The point is that to BE a ninja, you have to fall into a certain category of master-retainer relationship as well as possess the soul crystal that all ninjas have--not just the WoL (some jobs don't explicitly mention this but for Ninjas, Karasu gives up his soul crystal and renounces his status as a ninja).Â

There's a difference between being a Doman ninja and being an assassin/spy/thief/rogue/guy with two daggers who throws knives.

Sorry I don't even understand half of what you're saying though...

Warren Castille · **10-27-2015, 04:28 PM**

He's implying that you're being so rigid on the "BUT YOU HAVE TO SERVE A MASTER" schtick that you're ignoring that adventuring in Eorzea can easily be handwaved as "Yep, working for my master. How about that?"

Ashe · **10-27-2015, 04:30 PM**

(10-27-2015, 04:28 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: He's implying that you're being so rigid on the "BUT YOU HAVE TO SERVE A MASTER" schtick that you're ignoring that adventuring in Eorzea can easily be handwaved as "Yep, working for my master. How about that?"

My point with that is that somewhere in your backstory/current status that should be mentioned. You don't have to RP with said master all the time. But that's kind of like...the main point of them and what sets them apart from a regular spy/assassin.

Warren Castille · **10-27-2015, 04:33 PM**

(10-27-2015, 04:30 PM)Ashe Wrote:
(10-27-2015, 04:28 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: He's implying that you're being so rigid on the "BUT YOU HAVE TO SERVE A MASTER" schtick that you're ignoring that adventuring in Eorzea can easily be handwaved as "Yep, working for my master. How about that?"
My point with that is that somewhere in your backstory/current status that should be mentioned. You don't have to RP with said master all the time. But that's kind of like...the main point of them and what sets them apart from a regular spy/assassin.

Someone had better tell Yugiri that, then. Either that she's not really a ninja or that she needs to call home more.

You can easily leave this stuff in the background because it doesn't have to ever, ever come up in open roleplay.

Ashe · **10-27-2015, 04:53 PM**

(10-27-2015, 04:33 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(10-27-2015, 04:30 PM)Ashe Wrote:
(10-27-2015, 04:28 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: He's implying that you're being so rigid on the "BUT YOU HAVE TO SERVE A MASTER" schtick that you're ignoring that adventuring in Eorzea can easily be handwaved as "Yep, working for my master. How about that?"
My point with that is that somewhere in your backstory/current status that should be mentioned. You don't have to RP with said master all the time. But that's kind of like...the main point of them and what sets them apart from a regular spy/assassin.

Someone had better tell Yugiri that, then. Either that she's not really a ninja or that she needs to call home more.

You can easily leave this stuff in the background because it doesn't have to ever, ever come up in open roleplay.

She does have a master...she works for the Akatsuki.

And...I RP'd a ninja and didn't leave it in the background and it still worked. I just got bored of being an IC ninja and got rid of her (that Kasumi in my signature). You can feasibly do it.

Garalona · **10-27-2015, 04:59 PM**

(10-27-2015, 02:47 PM)Osirus Wrote: Hey mates my name is Osirus and i have been playing Â FFxiv for about two and a half months now and i have heard that there is a role-playing server(s). I am and absolute fan of rp and now that I know that there are server(s) to go on to do just Â that, along with so many different people is just fantastic.

Okay out of the old and in with the new. I am working on a background story for Abarus, but i am still working on how i want his "personality" to be. IRL i'm a very free-hearted, loving guy who like to do new thing and meet new people. But i don't think i want Abarus to have my own characteristics.
Class/Job wise, I planning (this is a highly liked choice) on making him a Ninja From Doma (like the usual ninja by the name Oboro). I know that it may be annoying to others by Abarus being a semi-copy of Oboro but it not there character so i think i will be fine.

Anyway, If anyone could lend a mate some feedback on me thought, it would be well appreciated.

Osirus out!Â

Figured I'd quote this just so it's easy to refer back to here on page 2. The questions posed are good for character building, too.

One big thing to think about is your character's motivation. Perhaps, given all the talk of masters, he's seeking a new master in Eorzea, but the betrayal in Doma has left him leery of accepting one too easily. Maybe he's trying to find someone truly worthy of his trust and service. How would he test them? What would he look for in a proper master.

Or his master could be a never seen NPC off in the wings, and you could just reference doing things for him in between faffing about and doing whatever you damn well please IC. It's your character and the possibilities are endless. The whole master thing could be as all encompassing, or not, as you want.

Ashe · **10-27-2015, 05:03 PM**

^ That is what I'm implying.Â
Just as long as it's somewhere that is what will make you a Doman ninja.
Sheesh.

Ah and Akatsuki is the Scions >>
Sorry...still play in Japanese >>

Warren Castille · **10-27-2015, 05:24 PM**

Okay, so we've established that your "master" can be an organization. Just find employment that sounds suitable and there you go, non-issue.

Arrelaine · **10-27-2015, 05:45 PM**

Eeeeeh with all the ninjas being seen as betrayers and exiles, I can see why many ninjas are without 'masters' or employers. I mean, being hated by your own people can make it difficult to come out and say 'hey I'm a ninja and my people may feel my fellow ninjas have betrayed them to the Empire but can you employ me anyway?'. Even for Eorzeans, learning that happened from another Doman's perspective may cause a lot of them to feel mistrusting toward ninjas. Heck, other ninjas may be mistrusting of other ninjas because they don't know who did what.

Osirus · **10-27-2015, 06:05 PM**

(10-27-2015, 03:38 PM)Ashe Wrote:
(10-27-2015, 03:26 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: Rogues and ninja have nothing to do with each other. Ninja quests don't begin at level 1, they begin at level 30.

Using ninja-as-presented-by-the-medium refers to a specific role. If you just want the toolkit, just consider yourself a catch-all assassin or something. It's very similar to how Dragoon infers a specific background and Paladin refers to a specific career.

There's a lot of random lore out there that only gets revealed once you've done the thing connected to it.
What I meant is that by definition, being a secret sneaky person who doesn't serve a master as a retainer might as well make you a rogue...or a random sneaky spy/thief/assassin at that point. Because by definition, Ninjas are a specific job related to Doma where they serve masters as shinobi with undying loyalty.Â

The title of ninja is VERY specific.Â
I've played through the job quests 3 times...I know what's up >>

So what you are saying is if i am going to choose to be rping a ninja character that i should seek out someone who i will see as an inspiration or as a trainer or something like that? In that case i'll just have to do some looking around Aye.

Osirus · **10-27-2015, 06:08 PM**

(10-27-2015, 04:59 PM)Garalona Wrote:
(10-27-2015, 02:47 PM)Osirus Wrote: Hey mates my name is Osirus and i have been playing Â FFxiv for about two and a half months now and i have heard that there is a role-playing server(s). I am and absolute fan of rp and now that I know that there are server(s) to go on to do just Â that, along with so many different people is just fantastic.

Okay out of the old and in with the new. I am working on a background story for Abarus, but i am still working on how i want his "personality" to be. IRL i'm a very free-hearted, loving guy who like to do new thing and meet new people. But i don't think i want Abarus to have my own characteristics.
Class/Job wise, I planning (this is a highly liked choice) on making him a Ninja From Doma (like the usual ninja by the name Oboro). I know that it may be annoying to others by Abarus being a semi-copy of Oboro but it not there character so i think i will be fine.

Anyway, If anyone could lend a mate some feedback on me thought, it would be well appreciated.

Osirus out!Â
Figured I'd quote this just so it's easy to refer back to here on page 2. The questions posed are good for character building, too.

One big thing to think about is your character's motivation. Perhaps, given all the talk of masters, he's seeking a new master in Eorzea, but the betrayal in Doma has left him leery of accepting one too easily. Maybe he's trying to find someone truly worthy of his trust and service. How would he test them? What would he look for in a proper master.

Or his master could be a never seen NPC off in the wings, and you could just reference doing things for him in between faffing about and doing whatever you damn well please IC. It's your character and the possibilities are endless. The whole master thing could be as all encompassing, or not, as you want.

Okay about that situation, the pretending the "master" is an unseen NPC thing... is that aloud? Because i had done something slimier awhile back and i got a lot of negative feed back on the topic.

Ashe · **10-27-2015, 06:10 PM**

(10-27-2015, 05:24 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: Okay, so we've established that your "master" can be an organization. Just find employment that sounds suitable and there you go, non-issue.

It's more like undying loyalty.
They aren't mercenaries.

Osirus · **10-27-2015, 06:16 PM**

(10-27-2015, 04:04 PM)Unnamed Mercenary Wrote:
(10-27-2015, 03:28 PM)Osirus Wrote: Yeah, planning on soon transferring to the server soon when i get the money to both do the name change along with the transfer.
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And thanks mate for the character build ideas, already answering some of them in my head now. And maybe i could RP with you when I get situated aye?

If you're the type of person who likes alt characters, highly recommended to make them on your current server and transfer them all over to Balmung for the single $18 fee. It's not directly stated anywhere clearly on the official sites, but when you pay for a transfer, you pay for a transfer of all available characters on Server A to Server B.

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In regards to RP, I'd be happy to try! I'm Pacific Coast USA scum living in the land of no seasons with a normal 8-5 job. So that means I'm usually in-game from about 6 - 10 in the evening, unless pretending to be social or otherwise obligated. Weekends are usually free, unless some major holiday comes around and the family guilt-trips me.

You can find a horribly outdated wiki page for Franz in the signature below if you want to get a feel for the character. Franz is.....well, he's an ass most of the time to a lot of people. And to others, he probably seems like a generally decent person. He is Garlean by blood, so if your eventually character would be able to spot a Garlean (even one well-concealed) in hiding, I do keep that open to people (assuming we discuss it a little first). Sometimes the big reveal's more fun after a person's come to know (maybe trust) before Franz ruins everything, as has happened a few times. There's a bit of very stretched (or just broken) lore on the character, which I normally keep under wraps outside of personal plots/people who've basically signed a waiver. But if he seems like an interesting guy, I'm always happy to force him into new situations.

Haha that sounds very interesting, and interesting things are fun, can't wait to get Abarus up and going! Rolleyes

Nebbs · **10-27-2015, 06:21 PM**

(10-27-2015, 06:10 PM)Ashe Wrote:
(10-27-2015, 05:24 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: Okay, so we've established that your "master" can be an organization. Just find employment that sounds suitable and there you go, non-issue.
It's more like undying loyalty.
They aren't mercenaries.

I never said anything about a master in my OP, that was your point. My point was around openly declaring yourself a ninja, or rather not doing this. I don't care if people have a master or not, or even a soul crystal or not. For me it just seems to spoil the mystique if there is no mystery.

Though I tend to see the classes as stereotypical archetypes and in RP we are free to blend in our own story and take on that. Though I accept some take the full rigidity of the game, I see it more as a loose framework that creates a common setting.

To each their own.

Roe Dad · **10-27-2015, 06:29 PM**

(10-27-2015, 06:21 PM)Nebbs Wrote:
(10-27-2015, 06:10 PM)Ashe Wrote:
(10-27-2015, 05:24 PM)Warren Castille Wrote: Okay, so we've established that your "master" can be an organization. Just find employment that sounds suitable and there you go, non-issue.
It's more like undying loyalty.
They aren't mercenaries.

I never said anything about a master in my OP, that was your point. My point was around openly declaring yourself a ninja, or rather not doing this. I don't care if people have a master or not, or even a soul crystal or not. For me it just seems to spoil the mystique if there is no mystery.

Though I tend to see the classes as stereotypical archetypes and in RP we are free to blend in our own story and take on that. Though I accept some take the full rigidity of the game, I see it more as a loose framework that creates a common setting.

To each their own.

I agree with Nebbs. You can take the classes as they are or make them your own like. I want to be a Knight and use a 2 handed sword but not be a dark knight.

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