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Ryanti · **06-17-2013, 11:27 PM**

Ryanti was born in the upper class society of Ul'Dah, where there were certain kinds of procedures and traditions that you had to follow. He's a halfbreed, his father being a Midlander Hyur. His father was Ryanti's role model, considering that he was a war hero in the Immortal Flames, and always seemed to be away when he needed him most.

He loves his mother, but feels like he can't relate to her. Like he can't connect to her. He never liked the fact that he wasn't born a full blooded race. He never liked the fact that he had Miqo'te ears and a Miqo'te tail.

He has a fascination and a determination to be like his dad. He looks like his dad, except for the Miqo'te racial traits. But that gets to him. He got bullied when he was younger because of it.

Ryanti believes that all races are able to live with one another alright, but he also believes that all races behave differently, and think differently. That's why he believes they have such different cultures, that evolution is driving them to different places.

Ryanti feels like he can't completely relate to Hyur culture and mannerisms because of his Miqo'te side, and he believes that prevents him from embracing the culture he was raised around. Even though, from the outside looking in, he's extremely familiar with urban culture. He would never want to be with his Miqo'te 'origin' culture. He feels like he is a refined individual, and somebody whom believes in progress and technology and dreaming for the future. He does not like anything tribal.

He feels disgusted with himself for having that 'side of him' in his DNA. He feels polluted and impure because he's a half breed. He would of preferred being a pure blooded Miqo'te, or especially a pure blooded Hyur. A pure blooded anything. He's not, so it gets to him.

He's not so much disgusted with tribal Miqo'te as he is.. disappointed. He feels like their achievements pale compared to the deeds of men. That they are far behind. But he also wants to be proven wrong, so that he could feel better about that side of himself.

Hope that makes sense.

Uther · **06-17-2013, 11:33 PM**

(06-17-2013, 11:26 PM)Stalkingrike Wrote: And what about stereotypes? Like say Miqo'te are believed to be better suited for whore houses because of their appearance and promiscuous culture. Lalafell might be viewed as cheapskates and swindlers. Elezen are a bunch of uppity tree huggers. The Hyur think they rule the world just because they breed like rats, while the...crap forgot the name (Sea wolves and Hellsguard) are nothing but a bunch of giant dumb brutes.Â

Heh, stereotyping is fun.

Some city-states are more prone to be populated by certain races. Ul'dah was founded by Dunesfolk Lalafell and a lot of Highlander refugees from Ala Mhigo live there. Gridania is populated mostly by Wildwood Elezen and Keeper of the Moon Miqo'te. Limsa is predominantly occupied by Sea Wolves, etc. There are a few more I'm forgetting (Hellsguard works as Ul'dahn mercenaries is the only one I can remember off the top of my head.)

As for stereotypes, I'm not tooÂ familiar with them but I know Elezen are seen as snobby and rude while I think Dunesfolk are seen as thrifty and frugal. Those are the only ones I can remember.

Grike · **06-17-2013, 11:38 PM**

(06-17-2013, 11:27 PM)Ryanti Wrote: Ryanti was born in the upper class society of Ul'Dah, where there were certain kinds of procedures and traditions that you had to follow. He's a halfbreed, his father being a Midlander Hyur. His father was Ryanti's role model, considering that he was a war hero in the Immortal Flames, and always seemed to be away when he needed him most.

He loves his mother, but feels like he can't relate to her. Like he can't connect to her. He never liked the fact that he wasn't born a full blooded race. He never liked the fact that he had Miqo'te ears and a Miqo'te tail.

He has a fascination and a determination to be like his dad. He looks like his dad, except for the Miqo'te racial traits. But that gets to him. He got bullied when he was younger because of it.

Ryanti believes that all races are able to live with one another alright, but he also believes that all races behave differently, and think differently. That's why he believes they have such different cultures, that evolution is driving them to different places.

Ryanti feels like he can't completely relate to Hyur culture and mannerisms because of his Miqo'te side, and he believes that prevents him from embracing the culture he was raised around. Even though, from the outside looking in, he's extremely familiar with urban culture. He would never want to be with his Miqo'te 'origin' culture. He feels like he is a refined individual, and somebody whom believes in progress and technology and dreaming for the future. He does not like anything tribal.

He feels disgusted with himself for having that 'side of him' in his DNA. He feels polluted and impure because he's a half breed. He would of preferred being a pure blooded Miqo'te, or especially a pure blooded Hyur. A pure blooded anything. He's not, so it gets to him.

He's not so much disgusted with tribal Miqo'te as he is.. disappointed. He feels like their achievements pale compared to the deeds of men. That they are far behind. But he also wants to be proven wrong, so that he could feel better about that side of himself.

Hope that makes sense.

This is beautiful. Truly an interesting character.

K'haz grew up among his tribesmen but has been living in civilization for about...ten years I think? At first he thought it was ridiculous (like fountains. Do you know how much water that wastes!? And what is gold really? It's shiny yes, but you can't eat it. And what the hell is with this government? Someone just strand these idiots in the desert already!) But then he saw the tech, the advancement in medicine (he's a healer so that's a big thing for him), and other comforts (The twelve bless whoever invented chocolate.)

In short, he's become tamed. And he's not sure whether or not he hates himself for it.

Ryanti · **06-17-2013, 11:51 PM**

(06-17-2013, 11:38 PM)Stalkingrike Wrote: This is beautiful. Truly an interesting character.

K'haz grew up among his tribesmen but has been living in civilization for about...ten years I think? At first he thought it was ridiculous (like fountains. Do you know how much water that wastes!? And what is gold really? It's shiny yes, but you can't eat it. And what the hell is with this government? Someone just strand these idiots in the desert already!) But then he saw the tech, the advancement in medicine (he's a healer so that's a big thing for him), and other comforts (The twelve bless whoever invented chocolate.)

In short, he's become tamed. And he's not sure whether or not he hates himself for it.

First of all, thank you! Heart

Secondly, yeah.. that's pretty much a prime example of what one of Ryanti's pet peeves are. I would take your character first seeing the city as a prime example of what he detests about Miqo'tes. He would think "You don't get it, your brain is incompetent of thinking beyond feeding and pissing and I can't stand having half the blood of them in me!"

However, if he met a more... civil Miqo'te, or an intellectual Miqo'te with tribal beliefs that was yet, in his eyes, fully educated (for example: Manari Onai) he's a lot more ...curious. And more of a pleasant person.

You could say he is a scientifically and emotionally curious individual. He has a fascination for the unknown.

Grike · **06-17-2013, 11:55 PM**

(06-17-2013, 11:51 PM)Ryanti Wrote:
(06-17-2013, 11:38 PM)Stalkingrike Wrote: This is beautiful. Truly an interesting character.

K'haz grew up among his tribesmen but has been living in civilization for about...ten years I think? At first he thought it was ridiculous (like fountains. Do you know how much water that wastes!? And what is gold really? It's shiny yes, but you can't eat it. And what the hell is with this government? Someone just strand these idiots in the desert already!) But then he saw the tech, the advancement in medicine (he's a healer so that's a big thing for him), and other comforts (The twelve bless whoever invented chocolate.)

In short, he's become tamed. And he's not sure whether or not he hates himself for it.

First of all, thank you!

Secondly, yeah.. that's pretty much a prime example of what one of Ryanti's pet peeves are. I would take your character first seeing the city as a prime example of what he detests about Miqo'tes. He would think "You don't get it, your brain is incompetent of thinking beyond feeding and pissing and I can't stand having half the blood of them in me!"

However, if he met a more... civil Miqo'te, or an intellectual Miqo'te with tribal beliefs that was yet, in his eyes, fully educated (for example: Manari Onai) he's a lot more ...curious. And more of a pleasant person.

You could say he is a scientifically and emotionally curious individual. He has a fascination for the unknown.

Oh god we have got to roleplay together. You're character is everything K'haz is afraid of becoming.

Rhynka · **06-17-2013, 11:57 PM**

Rhynka isn't fond of city miqo'te. She is open minded and willing to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. She has no tolerance unprovoked disrespect and will return it eagerly no matter what race is the culprit is.

Although Razamir is her "Nuhn" (It's more of a marriage their grasp on their traditions is quite loose), it's a bond of mutual loyalty, and love (He did lose one of his eyes protecting her after all). Considering her sometimes cranky composure her soft heart nature has lead her to accept many misfits into their clan, and at times can over look race in very special circumstances. Being a pariah herself she understands the need for community in the wilderness of any land and empathy for those forsaken pokes her conscience ruthlessly.

Despite being exiled from the clan of her birth Rhynka never broke down to take permanent refuge in any of the city states. So, aside from her slightly low opinion of Miqo'te who she feels opt for a comfortable life in the city Rhynka can always be proven wrong. She keeps her eyes and ears open, and being wrong in her sometimes misguided assumptions proves to be pleasant (If not amusing) and humbling.

ForestGuardian · **06-18-2013, 12:36 AM**

Edited for reasons.

Moonfire · **06-18-2013, 03:16 PM**

(06-17-2013, 11:26 PM)undefined Wrote: And what about stereotypes? Like say Miqo'te are believed to be better suited for whore houses because of their appearance and promiscuous culture. Lalafell might be viewed as cheapskates and swindlers. Elezen are a bunch of uppity tree huggers. The Hyur think they rule the world just because they breed like rats, while the...crap forgot the name (Sea wolves and Hellsguard) are nothing but a bunch of giant dumb brutes.Â

Heh, stereotyping is fun.

Oddly enough, this was exactly what I was just talking about with my mentor! They never really talk about this in the creator descriptions but you see in the game reflected on how NPC's talk and act. Since I am new to Final Fantasy I am excited to see this thread! Please keep this going Smile

Grike · **06-18-2013, 03:26 PM**

(06-18-2013, 03:16 PM)Moonfire Wrote:
(06-17-2013, 11:26 PM)undefined Wrote: And what about stereotypes? Like say Miqo'te are believed to be better suited for whore houses because of their appearance and promiscuous culture. Lalafell might be viewed as cheapskates and swindlers. Elezen are a bunch of uppity tree huggers. The Hyur think they rule the world just because they breed like rats, while the...crap forgot the name (Sea wolves and Hellsguard) are nothing but a bunch of giant dumb brutes.Â

Heh, stereotyping is fun.
Oddly enough, this was exactly what I was just talking about with my mentor! They never really talk about this in the creator descriptions but you see in the game reflected on how NPC's talk and act. Since I am new to Final Fantasy I am excited to see this thread! Please keep this going

I'll do my best!Â

Hmm I wonder how many cat jokes, Miqo'te get? Wait...does Eorzea have cats?

Dogberry · **06-18-2013, 03:50 PM**

Being a sailor, Dogberry has had a lot of experience with people. Still, Lalafell kind of perplex him. He basically sees them as glorified moogles. That's not to say he wouldn't respect a showing a strength from one. It's just going to take a lot for Dogberry to realize that a Lalafell is a person just like he is. He might come off as condescending without realizing or meaning it.

Vash · **06-18-2013, 03:52 PM**

(06-18-2013, 03:26 PM)Stalkingrike Wrote:
(06-18-2013, 03:16 PM)Moonfire Wrote:
(06-17-2013, 11:26 PM)undefined Wrote: And what about stereotypes? Like say Miqo'te are believed to be better suited for whore houses because of their appearance and promiscuous culture. Lalafell might be viewed as cheapskates and swindlers. Elezen are a bunch of uppity tree huggers. The Hyur think they rule the world just because they breed like rats, while the...crap forgot the name (Sea wolves and Hellsguard) are nothing but a bunch of giant dumb brutes.Â

Heh, stereotyping is fun.
Oddly enough, this was exactly what I was just talking about with my mentor! They never really talk about this in the creator descriptions but you see in the game reflected on how NPC's talk and act. Since I am new to Final Fantasy I am excited to see this thread! Please keep this going
I'll do my best!Â

Hmm I wonder how many cat jokes, Miqo'te get? Wait...does Eorzea have cats?

Well meow I don't think Eorzea has cats...Cat sith?

To Vash Lalafell kinda urk him since he likesÂ talkÂ to people eye to eye so he wouldÂ probablyÂ do a lot of /sit to get on their level. Also the hyur kinda bother him just because the look like theÂ Miqote minus the cat ears and a tail./ear twitch.Although Vash doesÂ silentlyÂ despiseÂ the Eelvan as they seem a bit like most of them act like they are the best race. Other than that Vash is not open abut his feelings about other races and his opinion changes depending on the people he meets so justÂ becauseÂ someone is that raceÂ doesn'tÂ mean I wont like you kupo!

Aysun · **06-18-2013, 06:37 PM**

Yes, Eorzea has cats (and dogs). There are NPCs of other races who I have seen refer to Miqo'te as kittens, so I'm sure there are jokes. My own character tends to take offense to those jokes, but I'm not sure if NPC Miqo'te do. Some may just milk it for what it's worth to get what they want out of someone. The ones who are more tribal in nature also use words that are more animal-associated (mane, for example, for hair), so it's not really surprising that some NPCs just see them as another kind of cat. Tongue

The racial differences in this game are interesting. While Eorzea is a melting pot, the races still appear pure, which has always lead me to believe that when they do interbreed the child will take the main race/clan trait of one or the other parent. You don't see Lalafells with cat tails, or even something like a Miqo'te who is clearly a Keeper of the Moon by skin tone with slitted pupils.

Culturally, there are plenty of stereotypes, as you've noticed the dancing/prostituting Miqo'te thing - however there are plenty that do not adhere to them as well (and there are Hyur prostitutes too! I found some! Tongue

). SE has said one of the reasons that the reason cross-breeds are rare is due to cultural differences between the races. It would be hard, I imagine, for a traditional tribal Miqo'te to marry someone they love, when she grew up in a society in which there is one male to thirty females? As Rhynka pointed out, there are indeed "city Miqo'te" from what I've seen.

There's also plenty of racism between races, which is incredibly entertaining to me to see in quest lines. One that comes to mind because I just saw it the other day during beta was the Wildwood Elezen who was incredibly disgusted by a Keeper of the Moon's archery. Saying she was not fit to use a bow, desecrating his noble art, etc. Plenty of tolerance though, too..

My own character I made intentionally distant from the "traditional" Miqo'te, because when I created her I had no lore to use and didn't want to just hijack the lore from XI. Upon finding out that's what SE did, I decided her grandparents were the ones who left the tribal life. I had her grow up on a boat, with her mother and a bunch of sailors, mostly Hyur. She sought out other Miqo'te when she went to the adventuring life. Since meeting many and seeing how many of those of her race are, she has developed a dislike of them. And the males, she's always disliked (daddy issues+meeting some rather unsavory ones in RP). Which is hard, because she was raised to be proud of being a Miqo'te.

..I'm completely rambling. But seeing people embrace racial differences in this game is something I really like. Smile

Aldeus · **06-18-2013, 09:43 PM**

(06-14-2013, 01:33 AM)Stalkingrike Wrote: [quote pid=25886 dateline=1371185301]
Only mating with one female when males are so few would seem selfish to him.

[/quote]

I saw at least a hundred male mi'quotes in Ul'dah during the beta test... maybe they just don't like women?

Aldeus was raised by a Hyur.Â Even though he's an Elezen, he knows very little about Elezen culture.Â He looks at himself and others through the lense of a Hyur perspective.Â He doesn't care much for mi'quote promiscuity, nor the brutish behavior of Roegadyn.Â He'll give everyone a fair shake though, except Garleans.Â He's ashamed of himself for it, but he really hates them.Â He's from Ala Mhigo.

Also, still not sure what a Lalafell is.Â Some kind of breakfast pastry?

Abaigeal · **06-18-2013, 09:50 PM**

You know... I don't think Abaigeal really pays much attention. She treats everyone the same...at least i think she does. >_O I could be wrong. But most of the people she has associated with thus far (or in the Soliloquy Tavern Skype chat thing) She tends to get along with everyone.

Grike · **06-18-2013, 09:58 PM**

(06-18-2013, 09:43 PM)Aldeus Wrote:
(06-14-2013, 01:33 AM)Stalkingrike Wrote: [quote pid=25886 dateline=1371185301]
Only mating with one female when males are so few would seem selfish to him.

I saw at least a hundred male mi'quotes in Ul'dah during the beta test... maybe they just don't like women?

Aldeus was raised by a Hyur.Â Even though he's an Elezen, he knows very little about Elezen culture.Â He looks at himself and others through the lense of a Hyur perspective.Â He doesn't care much for mi'quote promiscuity, nor the brutish behavior of Roegadyn.Â He'll give everyone a fair shake though, except Garleans.Â He's ashamed of himself for it, but he really hates them.Â He's from Ala Mhigo.

Also, still not sure what a Lalafell is.Â Some kind of breakfast pastry?
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Gods don't remind me. Personally I'm just pretending that the lot of them are just a bunch of guys pretending to Miqo'te in hopes of getting a harem of female cat girls...which probably isn't too far off base.

Also the Lalafell are the midget race, aren't they?

(06-18-2013, 06:37 PM)Aysun Wrote: Yes, Eorzea has cats (and dogs). There are NPCs of other races who I have seen refer to Miqo'te as kittens, so I'm sure there are jokes. My own character tends to take offense to those jokes, but I'm not sure if NPC Miqo'te do. Some may just milk it for what it's worth to get what they want out of someone. The ones who are more tribal in nature also use words that are more animal-associated (mane, for example, for hair), so it's not really surprising that some NPCs just see them as another kind of cat.

The racial differences in this game are interesting. While Eorzea is a melting pot, the races still appear pure, which has always lead me to believe that when they do interbreed the child will take the main race/clan trait of one or the other parent. You don't see Lalafells with cat tails, or even something like a Miqo'te who is clearly a Keeper of the Moon by skin tone with slitted pupils.

Culturally, there are plenty of stereotypes, as you've noticed the dancing/prostituting Miqo'te thing - however there are plenty that do not adhere to them as well (and there are Hyur prostitutes too! I found some! ). SE has said one of the reasons that the reason cross-breeds are rare is due to cultural differences between the races. It would be hard, I imagine, for a traditional tribal Miqo'te to marry someone they love, when she grew up in a society in which there is one male to thirty females? As Rhynka pointed out, there are indeed "city Miqo'te" from what I've seen.

There's also plenty of racism between races, which is incredibly entertaining to me to see in quest lines. One that comes to mind because I just saw it the other day during beta was the Wildwood Elezen who was incredibly disgusted by a Keeper of the Moon's archery. Saying she was not fit to use a bow, desecrating his noble art, etc. Plenty of tolerance though, too..

My own character I made intentionally distant from the "traditional" Miqo'te, because when I created her I had no lore to use and didn't want to just hijack the lore from XI. Upon finding out that's what SE did, I decided her grandparents were the ones who left the tribal life. I had her grow up on a boat, with her mother and a bunch of sailors, mostly Hyur. She sought out other Miqo'te when she went to the adventuring life. Since meeting many and seeing how many of those of her race are, she has developed a dislike of them. And the males, she's always disliked (daddy issues+meeting some rather unsavory ones in RP). Which is hard, because she was raised to be proud of being a Miqo'te.

..I'm completely rambling. But seeing people embrace racial differences in this game is something I really like.

I think intermixing of races works kind of like elder scrolls does. If I remember the lore right the baby's race depends on the mother though there will be some...traits that show up from the father's side.

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