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11-14-2013, 04:53 PM
Faye and I have noticed that when our two characters are talking, people seem to be apprehensive about joining in. Or, they feel bad about joining in because usually Val goes silent and Faye carries on a conversation with the newcomer.

This is absolutely okay with us! Val, the character, has been quite informed that he lacks most social graces and in order to avoid getting on Faye's bad side, he generally learns to keep his mouth shut.

That being said, she and I both would be MORE than happy for people to walk up and RP with us when the characters are together. We welcome it and, in fact, wish it would happen more often. I understand people's reservations about being afraid of interrupting something but, honestly, if we're RPing in the open then that means there's nothing to interrupt =)

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11-14-2013, 05:00 PM
(11-14-2013, 04:53 PM)Val Wrote: Faye and I have noticed that when our two characters are talking, people seem to be apprehensive about joining in. Or, they feel bad about joining in because usually Val goes silent and Faye carries on a conversation with the newcomer.

This is absolutely okay with us! Val, the character, has been quite informed that he lacks most social graces and in order to avoid getting on Faye's bad side, he generally learns to keep his mouth shut.

That being said, she and I both would be MORE than happy for people to walk up and RP with us when the characters are together. We welcome it and, in fact, wish it would happen more often. I understand people's reservations about being afraid of interrupting something but, honestly, if we're RPing in the open then that means there's nothing to interrupt =)

This is a perfect example of where a /tell would help alleviate any misgivings or misunderstandings.

I know some people don't like to do /tells, they feel it breaks some sort of wall, but there are a lot of shy, new, or otherwise nervous people out there where a little OOC communication can provide a wealth of confidence and help.

Should people take IC actions as representing OOC actions? No. Do they? Yes. Especially with new rpers, a little help in separating the OOC from the IC can be needed. It's very easy to take things personally when you are first starting out in the rp world, and it never hurts (imo) to give people some OOC encouragement.
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11-14-2013, 09:15 PM
(11-14-2013, 05:00 PM)Magellan Wrote: there are a lot of shy.... or otherwise nervous people out there where a little OOC communication can provide a wealth of confidence and help.

.... >w<

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11-14-2013, 09:58 PM
Speaking of random encounters. Days ago I was in an airship landing (The Gridania one I think) and I just happen to be on the phone but still watching my computer screen. Suddenly, I saw you K'nahli! Your character turned around and looked at my character for a while. I was like "[sarcastic] perfect timing" to myself. Would have been a chance to RP, but I didn't know how long I was going to be on the phone and I would not be able to multitask RPing and phone conversation at the same time. In hindsight, I should have set my status to AFK, but didn't think of it at the time.

Anywho, I like the idea of trying emotes because I don't like sending tells unless I have to. Not that I can't see how OOC tells can be useful for making things much more clear.

I will have to think about it.
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11-14-2013, 10:15 PM
The secret to entering PRIVATE PUBLIC RPs in just ONE easy step!

Step 1

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I prefer to do it more like this.

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11-14-2013, 10:34 PM
(11-14-2013, 10:22 PM)ansemaru Wrote:
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11-14-2013, 10:36 PM
(11-14-2013, 10:52 AM)K Wrote: Actually on a related note, the other day I ran from Gridania to Ul'dah on my level 2 Bandit character. I was hoping to find some open world RP but never expected to. Although! I was surprised to find myself mistaken. I spotted two characters walking towards me from the bar that resides between Ul'dah and Blackbrush. So I drew my lance and yelled at them to stop. They didn't respond immediately and only started showing interest after they passed me(as in, they turned around, no words were spoken). At that point I felt it was too late to continue and mostly I was just really nervous so I continued running towards Ul'dah.

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11-14-2013, 10:36 PM
(11-14-2013, 09:58 PM)Kheni Wrote: Speaking of random encounters. Days ago I was in an airship landing (The Gridania one I think) and I just happen to be on the phone but still watching my computer screen. Suddenly, I saw you K'nahli! Your character turned around and looked at my character for a while. I was like "[sarcastic] perfect timing" to myself. Would have been a chance to RP, but I didn't know how long I was going to be on the phone and I would not be able to multitask RPing and phone conversation at the same time. In hindsight, I should have set my status to AFK, but didn't think of it at the time.

Anywho, I like the idea of trying emotes because I don't like sending tells unless I have to. Not that I can't see how OOC tells can be useful for making things much more clear.

I will have to think about it.


Ah, as far as your any inclination towards RP would have went, I have only RP'D K'nahli twice in-game. That how seldom the chance comes around. Add to that four or five forums topics and you have the totality of all her RP experience. She is still stuck in Sagolii. Ul'dah is the furthest she has ever ventured.

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11-15-2013, 01:09 AM
(11-14-2013, 10:36 PM)K Wrote:
(11-14-2013, 09:58 PM)Kheni Wrote: Speaking of random encounters. Days ago I was in an airship landing (The Gridania one I think) and I just happen to be on the phone but still watching my computer screen. Suddenly, I saw you K'nahli! Your character turned around and looked at my character for a while. I was like "[sarcastic] perfect timing" to myself. Would have been a chance to RP, but I didn't know how long I was going to be on the phone and I would not be able to multitask RPing and phone conversation at the same time. In hindsight, I should have set my status to AFK, but didn't think of it at the time.

Anywho, I like the idea of trying emotes because I don't like sending tells unless I have to. Not that I can't see how OOC tells can be useful for making things much more clear.

I will have to think about it.


Ah, as far as your any inclination towards RP would have went, I have only RP'D K'nahli twice in-game. That how seldom the chance comes around. Add to that four or five forums topics and you have the totality of all her RP experience. She is still stuck in Sagolii. Ul'dah is the furthest she has ever ventured.

Are you saying that wasn't you, or you weren't IC? My memory could be wrong; I think I had some whiskey that night. Anywho If it was you, you did stop and turn towards me. Maybe you OOCly saw me as familiar and wanted a double-take?

Tobias, Ansemaru, my character is not the Koolaid man, nor is he an armored titan.....


But I wanna try that! See how it works! Thanks! LOL
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11-15-2013, 01:40 AM
I have a personal experience involving this from a different MMO. I had a character who was hanging out in a town while there just so happened to be some guild-based RP going on. It was more than two people but I've often been hesitant to enter an RP when all the characters all have the same guild tag. 

My character was nearby and over-heard what was going on. She had an opinion and I decided to let her butt in on the conversation and deliver her spiel to this guild after debating for a long time whether or not I should get involved.

She ended up becoming good friends with that guild leader which lead to many more RP scenes.

Moral of the story, I guess: You can't always be sure if RPers will respond positively to your RP, but you also can't be sure that you won't be missing out on meeting your next RP partner(s) either.
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11-15-2013, 10:49 AM
(11-15-2013, 01:09 AM)Kheni Wrote: Are you saying that wasn't you, or you weren't IC? My memory could be wrong; I think I had some whiskey that night. Anywho If it was you, you did stop and turn towards me. Maybe you OOCly saw me as familiar and wanted a double-take?

Tobias, Ansemaru, my character is not the Koolaid man, nor is he an armored titan.....


But I wanna try that! See how it works! Thanks! LOL

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(11-14-2013, 03:59 PM)Knahli Wrote: -snip-
Does anyone actually feel like that at any point? I can't count the times a lone RP'er has sat down at a table in the quicksand and emotes on on their lonesome ;w; Personally, for the few times I have RP'd there it hasn't really bothered me and I accept that what I am doing is only adding to the setting but whenever its anyone else I assume the worst =w= ;;

I've seen the same thing happen,

I'll sit at the bar and sip my drink while i'm talking OOcly in a Linkshell, just to show that I can be talked to and help add to the "living" element of the setting, but sometimes I get this horrible feeling that others are hoping to have people burst in and engage them. Or perhaps worse (for me) is when some one sits next to me just moments before I stand up because i've been asked to help else where.

I know you were standing around for a while and I know it likely took a while to think of a probable reason to engage me, and whipping small talk out of thin air isn't easy for everyone I'M SORRY I WANT TO TALK TO YOU TOO I just had the dungeon queue for AK pop and I really want those Myth tomes /weep
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11-15-2013, 01:18 PM
(11-15-2013, 12:43 PM)Olofantur Wrote: I've seen the same thing happen,

I'll sit at the bar and sip my drink while i'm talking OOcly in a Linkshell, just to show that I can be talked to and help add to the "living" element of the setting, but sometimes I get this horrible feeling that others are hoping to have people burst in and engage them. Or perhaps worse (for me) is when some one sits next to me just moments before I stand up because i've been asked to help else where.

I know you were standing around for a while and I know it likely took a while to think of a probable reason to engage me, and whipping small talk out of thin air isn't easy for everyone I'M SORRY I WANT TO TALK TO YOU TOO I just had the dungeon queue for AK pop and I really want those Myth tomes /weep

Yes!! This precisely ;;; I hate that niggling feeling of doubt...

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11-15-2013, 03:30 PM
(11-15-2013, 01:40 AM)Flickering Ember Wrote: Moral of the story, I guess: You can't always be sure if RPers will respond positively to your RP, but you also can't be sure that you won't be missing out on meeting your next RP partner(s) either.

This!

As the first responder said, emotes are a good way to let the other RPers know you're interested in joining and gauge their reaction. But keep in mind this isn't foolproof; if you just emote looking at my character while she's engaged in conversation, the most she'll probably do is look back, but that doesn't mean you aren't welcome to join in on the role-play.

I like to keep OOC and IC very separate (so I've gotten used to "shifting gears," myself), and I try to do the same for other people. That being said, I try to keep my first impression of them IC separate from my first impression of them OOC. Receiving a tell from someone asking if they can join may spoil a bit of the spontaneity, but it's an acceptable loss--a certain degree of OOC communication is necessary. The personality difference between someone OOC and IC probably won't be too jarring to anyone, and if it is, that's on them, not you. They should realize that you are not your character.

As for who to send tells to, you can send a tell to one person, both, or neither! It doesn't really matter. If one person agrees and the other says no, I would just leave. There's no reason to role-play with someone rude and/or uninterested and be where you aren't wanted. You could always role-play with the person who agreed at some later time when the person who objected isn't present.

If you see people role-playing and it's a conversation your character would logically join in on, feel free to jump right in. I usually just join in IC without sending a tell first. Admittedly, there are people who will get annoyed OOC if you join their role-play, but they're silly for having a "private" role-play in public and they're probably no one you'd want to RP with anyway, so that's no loss. 

Personally, I enjoy when other people join in on my RP's. I like meeting new people, and it makes the world feel real, populated, and alive. If my character is discussing something more private/personal, she may not be grateful for an interruption, but OOC I am grateful for and unoffended by the interaction. So that being said, anytime I'm role-playing in a public channel, it's not a "private" role-play. Feel free to join in if you see me! I can't speak for my other role-play partners, but I won't mind and neither will Val! Someone mentioned being apprehensive about joining in FC role-plays. If you see people on Balmung with the <<HoD>> tag, you can always join in on our RP. We won't mind at all!

Going back to the quote at the beginning, just give it a try. Worst case scenario, you're excluded from the role-play and you move on to better prospects. Best case scenario, you've met new role-players and joined their role-play. It's that old cliche of, "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take," or whatever.

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