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(10-08-2014, 02:18 PM)Kinono Wrote: I'll say this, both to my defense in detriment:
no response I make in this thread or on this subject is going to be 100% rational and without emotional attachment.
As a primarily Lalafell roleplayer, who's been at this since launch... I get really, really, really tired of not being taken seriously. As a player, but more importantly as a character. I've had people regularly comments on me being the "comedy-relief" race, regular derogatory comments made on my character's ability to do physically anything by herself, assumptions that I'm not being age-appropriate by doing anything a grown adult would regularly and reasonably do, and one very random and uncalled-for comment on me being smelly and dirty and having gross midget feet.
I'll totally agree that a lalapunch and a roepunch, after equal training and with equal equipment are not going to be the same. But if anybody tells me or any other character they can't win a little brawl for no better reason than "lol lala," then that person's credibility is going to go way, way, way down in my book.
I blame XI for that. Tarutaru (the progenitor race from that game) are almost to-a-one childlike and silly. There are plenty of examples where they aren't, but the CoP triplets and Shantotto are basically the only ones anyone remembers. You can also blame SE by outright stating on the official lalafell page on Lodestone that they have child-like countenances. They did you no favors by painting the race as children, but there's plenty of NPCs and dialogue in game that show that isn't the case.
Finally, anyone saying lalafell can't win a fight because of their size is damaged upstairs. If my opinions came off that way I apologize; I really just wanted to talk about raw strength vis-a-vis punching/throwing/grappling.
(10-08-2014, 02:18 PM)Kage Wrote: I'm at work so I can't spend as much time as I'd like to fumbling around with the quotes and spoilers. Thank you Warren for establishing that! :3
As a lalafell player I'd like to believe that I've never had Kage attempt to just bare bones bench press and throw a Roegadyn clear across the room with no effort at all. But one of your comments makes me think someone did?
If I had Kage facing Warren at the GS. A) As warren doesn't fight with armor or weapons, Kage would probably actually do the same thing, ie fight with his bare fists. To him, it's only fair.
If I were to throw a lalafell at say the fight club, some things I have in mind. Lalafell, if they are fighters, are going to have the fortitude to take hits. Ones that have a high chance of counters but if they hit are knockouts? No, but they might be able to dodge and counter it easily. He might be using the opponent's own joints against him to force the win. Or outlast him long enough to wear him out and get in a good blow.
Re: LalaPunch Hyur: No it won't hurt as much as Roe's or another Hyur's but it's not something that you're going to be able to laugh off and go "lol try that again! did you even try the first time?"
Enh, there was an incident but it's not mine to call out. I just wanted to be equipped for when it is inevitably my turn, though.
Joint manipulation and judo-style momentum-counters are completely fair. This is what I meant by saying brute force isn't the only way to win; Even without weapons or armor a lalafell CAN be a threat, I just think that threat is best represented through means other than leaping uppercuts and axe-handle smashes and dropkicks.
I'd also like to think that I've always had Warren "sell" well, especially at the Grindstone. Getting hit is going to happen and everyone knows I expect to lose every round, so I'd never be so brazen as to stick my chest out and laugh off someone's attacks. I also try not to talk trash. I'm a firm believer in talking/emoting yourself up instead of someone else down. There's a world of difference between
Quote:/em sees the feint coming and slips around behind the true attack before following through with his own
and
Quote:/em laughs off <t>'s horrible attempt at a trick and blocks the attack without flinching, smirking and laughing it off and doing a Shinkuu Shoryuken. "You're so damn slow, my mother could have seen that coming.
One makes you sound like a good fighter! The other makes your opponent sound like shit! They both get the same point across (dodge, counter) but one makes for a tense back-and-forth, the other sounds like fanfiction.
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