(12-21-2014, 04:35 PM)Artigan Wrote: When did the ideologues creep in? No one stated: a real man is x, y, and z. One individual made an off-handed quip about playing masculine men. The cast of FF15 is easily to date the most effeminate cast of the entire series and of the bourgeois class.Hmm. I don't think I responded to your original post -- my own post could be considered off topic then.Â
The second post was merely illustrating how the main character Noctis bares a striking resemblance to Sasuke from Naruto.
No one here is trying to push an ideal of "how to man." Jesus christ.
I know this will blow people's minds: it's okay to have an opinion and dislike something based purely on aesthetics and not be a "monster" for it.
I personally, which wasn't even the topic of the thread, don't care for effeminate male heroes, stuck in their late teens or early to mid twenties with all the social grace of a introvert and displaying the wisdom of an elder (it is rather unbelievable and disconnecting). It's just not my cup of tea.
I didn't like Vann (Granted Vann is a extrovert with disillusions of grandeur, and holding onto a vendetta) in 12 for that reason, and why Basch, Balthier, and Fran were my main cast.
The FF series did fall into a trend of "pretty boy" heroes when graphics started to become par for the course. Not liking effeminate male protagonists isn't equatable to hating effeminate men, wishing ill on such individuals, and thinking they are sub-par or lesser for it.
Each to their own. I won't be buying  FF15 for many reasons, but that is simply 1 of the reasons why.
Also, so what if someone says: their are too many pretty boys in this game. How is that concerning? No one here said it is immoral or unethical.
Regarding the cast, I agree there. They are all -mostly- pretty boys. The term 'pretty boy' doesn't really translate into effeminate to me. It just means a man who looks...pretty. Not my cup of juice (that's a lie, I'll take all comers), but eh, I wouldn't avoid the game for it. Well, providing I was going to get it in the first place.Â
The statement I made still stands, though it was a response to another post.Â
They might even be due for some pretty boys with Bara Fantasy XIV over here.