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RE: IC Glamours/Illusions |
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02-28-2015, 01:04 PM
(02-28-2015, 12:36 PM)Sounsyy Wrote: As wary as some people are of "glamours" or "glamour magick," it is 100% canon to lore on multiple fronts. I can understand reservation on something like the "Fantasia Potion" as it's a money-store bought item with no other mention elsewhere in Eorzea besides some ambiguous flavor text. Glamours, on the other hand, are everywhere in Eorzea. From Levequests to F.A.T.E.s to MSQ to Seasonal to Hildibrand. Even if glamouring isn't really your cup of tea, something that is that frequently expressed in the game cannot be cast aside as not canon because of personal preference.

We see a lot of "Glamour Magicks" used by Voidsent, particularly imps, as well as Sylphs. But we also have glamour crystals which are crafted not using magic. So a pure-blood Garlean may lean more towards the latter form of glamourification.

As for the main story quest where the inquisitor becomes a dragon... I think that is less Arcanima than it is Dragon magic. Dragons have some very impressive magicks that we can only hope to see and learn more of in Heavensward, but shape-shifting may be one of those magicks? We don't see Arcanima used for glamour anywhere else I don't think.

All that said, glamours appear to be sketchy at best and not very reliable for long periods of time. Also there's several ways of dispelling glamours and per most Levequests, the respective militaries recognize many of these ways to dispel glamours.
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SpoilerAnd honestly, glamours are the least of Raubahn's worries when his right-hand woman was a Garlean double agent betraying his every move for the last 5 years. lol

Just to be clear on my point, I'm not exactly against the glamouring of one's appearance, but rather the ability for just about anyone to do it easily and efficiently. You say that there are methods of dispelling these things and that's true, but unless you're not a convincing actor and dealing with someone who knows the real person very well, then Garleans in particular could abuse this to high heaven and make a lot more progress than they do by simply dressing up and playing as regular soldiers(in which their ranks have to be actually earned too).... and even then there would always be a massive sense of mistrust among your own comrades.

Is Steve having a bad day and perhaps acting moody? Better smack him with a alchemical dispeller to make sure he's not someone pretending to be him.

^Things like that are basically where most of my reluctance comes from.



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I was considering that too actually. If she really, really wanted to get away with it then she could have used a glamour when conveying information to other agents as opposed to sneaking indoors to change into a new pair of clothes.

Likewise, the other double agents that broke her out could have provided her with some so that her retreat back to Garlean lines would have been practically ensured.


Also, as a side note to anyone who perhaps plays characters or knows characters who roleplay anything akin to this concept, please keep in mind that everyone thusfar has merely been sharing their personal opinions(myself included of course)!
These kinds of things can sometimes sound like the concept is being condemned in discussions like these but that is not anyone's intent I'm sure.


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Val just.... basically said what I meant in two lines ;;;    *incompetent*

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IC Glamours/Illusions - by N'velhi Tia - 02-27-2015, 09:46 PM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by K'nahli - 02-27-2015, 10:31 PM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by Val - 02-28-2015, 12:16 PM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by Kellach Woods - 02-27-2015, 10:36 PM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by K'nahli - 02-27-2015, 10:58 PM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by Unnamed Mercenary - 02-27-2015, 10:55 PM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by N'velhi Tia - 02-28-2015, 06:07 AM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by Cato - 02-28-2015, 07:37 AM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by Unnamed Mercenary - 02-28-2015, 11:35 AM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by Enzo - 02-28-2015, 11:47 AM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by Cato - 02-28-2015, 11:47 AM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by Sounsyy - 02-28-2015, 12:36 PM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by Val - 02-28-2015, 12:48 PM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by Sounsyy - 02-28-2015, 01:04 PM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by Val - 02-28-2015, 01:10 PM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by Gegenji - 03-02-2015, 09:34 AM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by Unnamed Mercenary - 03-02-2015, 10:27 AM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by Gegenji - 03-02-2015, 10:29 AM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by K'nahli - 02-28-2015, 01:04 PM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by Chillsmack - 02-28-2015, 01:04 PM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by myahele - 02-28-2015, 04:10 PM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by N'velhi Tia - 02-28-2015, 04:34 PM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by Atoli - 02-28-2015, 05:00 PM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by CrookedTarot - 02-28-2015, 05:37 PM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by Harmonixer - 02-28-2015, 09:50 PM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by Edvyn - 02-28-2015, 11:51 PM
RE: IC Glamours/Illusions - by Y'lani - 02-28-2015, 11:59 PM

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