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RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? |
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03-16-2015, 01:47 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-16-2015, 01:53 PM by Hyrist.)
Warning,the following is rant not directed at any individual in particular. Please read at your own risk.


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Here there be venting!



FFXIV's2.0 lore is not RP friendly, especially in direct comparison to 1.xx's lore.

White Mages in 1.xx were actually encourage to spread their craft where it is all secrecy and exclusivity in 2.xx.

My personal policy is that when lore conflicts with the play-ability of a character, exceptions can be made.

It'sprohibitively restrictive to deny a role-player the mechanics a player has with ease, and to over-adhere to lore in this case is too narrow and threatens to shove away potentials and veteran roleplayers alike.

That's how roleplay communities die.

Nobody wants to play with those who will spend more time trying to strike down stories than to build them, so it's best to avoid outright denying concepts that prove as exceptions to exclusion causes within Lore.

Only when the plot adheres directly to the theme of the main story do factors get hard-lined. Nobody is the Champion of Eorzea (Note, there are several 'Warriors of Light' any adventurer that participated in and survived Cartneau counts as one, strictly speaking.) because 
anybodycan be. That'sa spot reserved for head cannons.

Beyond thatpoint, 
everything is
malleable.

So the real argumentative standpoint in evoking something are the points that craft a good story and a better roleplay. Questions such as this:

- Can the exception be crafted within current themes using minimal bypasses?
- What does it add to the roleplay/story character concept?
- Can this be executed in a (subjectively)believable manner to the community you are interacting with most?

And so forth. 

This maybe an unpopular statement to say, but unless it's stated out the mouth of the lore team, anything, even the most minute, lore adherent roleplay produced by the players, amounts to fanfiction. That game in the majority of its story workings treats the player as if his/her existence is in a vacuum. The players 'adventurer friends' are only a minor reference, at best and from standpoints of lore the player character carries his/her adventurer friends through all these dangerous fights and dungeons.

That in direct opposition to the game's mechanics, and is effectively telling the player to neglect the game for the sake of RP. To date this stance remains my single largest criticism of the game. It is 
very rp unfriendly from the lore standpoint, and I hold no blame on any RP group that bends the lore to make it more playable and enjoyable for its members.




Overall,my opinion on it is: If you can make an engaging story out of it, do it. Even if you mess it up, it'll be experience to learn from as you develop as a roleplayer. The lore is often a mess in this game that ignores its previous history - it can be paid homage to without adhering to all the restrictions it implicates.


Play it, to the best of your ability. Learn from it, and don't sweat the loremongering too heavily. Remember that roleplaying within established canons amounts to shared fanfiction. So long as what you're doing isn't perceived as outright insulting the story, most players are going to at the very least tolerate if not be entertained by it.
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Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Heart Quintessence - 03-11-2015, 08:16 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Warren Castille - 03-11-2015, 08:28 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Maril - 03-11-2015, 08:30 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Heart Quintessence - 03-11-2015, 08:39 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Maril - 03-11-2015, 08:47 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Warren Castille - 03-11-2015, 08:43 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Chillsmack - 03-12-2015, 12:12 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Gone. - 03-12-2015, 12:34 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Flashhelix - 03-12-2015, 01:05 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Aduu Avagnar - 03-12-2015, 02:43 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by ArmachiA - 03-12-2015, 03:03 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Gone. - 03-12-2015, 03:18 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Tiergan - 03-12-2015, 04:30 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Maril - 03-12-2015, 05:05 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Gone. - 03-12-2015, 05:13 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Maril - 03-12-2015, 05:43 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Warren Castille - 03-12-2015, 07:17 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Seriphyn - 03-14-2015, 11:26 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Sounsyy - 03-14-2015, 12:38 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Flickering Ember - 03-14-2015, 07:55 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Gone. - 03-14-2015, 08:20 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by ArmachiA - 03-15-2015, 08:40 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Warren Castille - 03-15-2015, 09:03 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Tiergan - 03-13-2015, 11:57 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Flashhelix - 03-13-2015, 12:54 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Tiergan - 03-14-2015, 12:24 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by ArmachiA - 03-12-2015, 04:06 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by entropyrat - 03-12-2015, 08:44 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Gegenji - 03-12-2015, 08:45 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Kage - 03-12-2015, 01:07 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by ArmachiA - 03-12-2015, 03:51 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by ArmachiA - 03-12-2015, 05:28 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Aduu Avagnar - 03-12-2015, 08:06 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Heart Quintessence - 03-12-2015, 08:11 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Aduu Avagnar - 03-12-2015, 08:19 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Warren Castille - 03-12-2015, 08:19 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Heart Quintessence - 03-12-2015, 08:42 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Aduu Avagnar - 03-12-2015, 08:50 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by ProvaDiServo - 03-12-2015, 01:51 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Aya - 03-12-2015, 01:52 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Unnamed Mercenary - 03-12-2015, 01:54 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Aya - 03-12-2015, 01:26 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Heart Quintessence - 03-12-2015, 03:50 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by K'nahli - 03-12-2015, 04:31 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by FreelanceWizard - 03-12-2015, 04:38 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Sounsyy - 03-12-2015, 06:37 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Heart Quintessence - 03-12-2015, 07:22 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by entropyrat - 03-12-2015, 10:24 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by V'aleera - 03-13-2015, 02:45 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Aduu Avagnar - 03-13-2015, 04:52 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Chillsmack - 03-14-2015, 12:47 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Unnamed Mercenary - 03-14-2015, 01:21 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Chillsmack - 03-14-2015, 02:32 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Warren Castille - 03-14-2015, 03:33 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Chillsmack - 03-14-2015, 04:46 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Heart Quintessence - 03-14-2015, 11:34 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Kellach Woods - 03-14-2015, 08:29 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Flickering Ember - 03-15-2015, 09:02 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by ArmachiA - 03-15-2015, 09:24 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Flickering Ember - 03-15-2015, 10:09 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Sounsyy - 03-15-2015, 09:51 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Kellach Woods - 03-16-2015, 12:18 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by V'aleera - 03-15-2015, 09:52 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Warren Castille - 03-15-2015, 09:55 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Yssen - 03-15-2015, 10:55 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by ArmachiA - 03-15-2015, 11:18 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Yssen - 03-15-2015, 11:52 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Verad - 03-15-2015, 11:27 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by ArmachiA - 03-15-2015, 11:28 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Verad - 03-15-2015, 11:29 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by V'aleera - 03-15-2015, 11:33 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Verad - 03-15-2015, 11:34 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by ArmachiA - 03-15-2015, 11:39 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by ArmachiA - 03-15-2015, 11:57 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by V'aleera - 03-16-2015, 12:08 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Gone. - 03-16-2015, 12:08 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Cato - 03-16-2015, 01:27 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by ArmachiA - 03-16-2015, 01:27 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by V'aleera - 03-16-2015, 01:30 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Flickering Ember - 03-16-2015, 01:39 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Yssen - 03-16-2015, 01:40 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Cato - 03-16-2015, 01:53 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by ArmachiA - 03-16-2015, 01:59 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Tiergan - 03-16-2015, 02:08 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Tiergan - 03-16-2015, 02:36 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by ArmachiA - 03-16-2015, 02:39 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Cato - 03-16-2015, 02:43 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Gone. - 03-16-2015, 04:57 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Warren Castille - 03-16-2015, 07:39 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Kellach Woods - 03-16-2015, 07:50 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Aduu Avagnar - 03-16-2015, 08:14 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Alothia - 03-16-2015, 08:54 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Kurt S. - 03-16-2015, 09:11 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Warren Castille - 03-16-2015, 09:20 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Kurt S. - 03-16-2015, 09:45 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Warren Castille - 03-16-2015, 09:47 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Aduu Avagnar - 03-16-2015, 09:38 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Gegenji - 03-16-2015, 09:40 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Tiergan - 03-16-2015, 11:49 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Heart Quintessence - 03-16-2015, 11:48 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Sounsyy - 03-16-2015, 11:52 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Tiergan - 03-16-2015, 11:58 AM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Hyrist - 03-16-2015, 01:47 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Heart Quintessence - 03-16-2015, 02:21 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Bahati - 03-16-2015, 05:12 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Unnamed Mercenary - 03-16-2015, 05:32 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by K'nahli - 03-16-2015, 05:36 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Warren Castille - 03-16-2015, 05:41 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Kellach Woods - 03-16-2015, 06:34 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by K'nahli - 03-16-2015, 07:08 PM
RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by ArmachiA - 03-16-2015, 11:51 PM
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RE: Lore Reasons:White Mage? - by Heart Quintessence - 03-17-2015, 10:30 AM
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