(06-22-2015, 04:29 PM)Zyrusticae Wrote:(06-22-2015, 04:09 PM)Leggerless Wrote: Yep. Haven't got into HW just yet, but many sources are ambivalent.NIN was actually OP right off the bat. MCH is the complete opposite situation: they're always terrible, even when played completely 100% optimally.
A Machinist is like a ninja; they are good if played well and terrible if played incorrectly. At this stage, there are more of the latter present. Over time, the amount of people who know how to work with Machinist will increase and the class will seem... well, not as shitty. Like ninjas
Edit: Also, if anyone knows the base skill speed of a level 60 ninja right now, I would love to know it.
High MCH DPS runs in the 600-650 range at level 59 and i142. Meanwhile, this BLM is doing 977 DPS at 60 and i159. As you probably well know, those 17 ilvls (and one job level) are NOT going to explain the raw difference in DPS. The job is simply borked.
I think the most obvious problem is that even at our peak burst we're only doing sub-par damage, and then during the rest of the time we're slaves to the RNG as we pray for procs to use our slightly-more-damaging skills... and our skills have really, REALLY bad potencies to begin with. BRD also has low potencies but compensates with lots of crits and the bloodletter proc which completely changes how much damage they output at 50 (though that damage is still obviously sub-par next to melee DPS and caster jobs). Their Wanderer's Minuet skills are also straight-up superior to MCH's Gauss Barrel skills, something I find quite laughable as it's an extremely straightforward comparison and there is no excuse for this discrepancy.
This is not okay:
Black Mage
Machinist
![[Image: Pmh8Ttk.png]](http://i.imgur.com/Pmh8Ttk.png)
![[Image: IcSpalu.png]](http://i.imgur.com/IcSpalu.png)
You have no idea what MCH 'played optimally' looks like, and neither does anyone else at this point. So maybe just calm down and a wait a few weeks and see what the numbers end up being.
