(08-01-2015, 09:30 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote:(08-01-2015, 09:28 PM)A Wrote: Meh, being of mixed race and growing up near hated to the point of violence in real life, I can do without it in a game. Â For me, separating reality from fiction would be the opposite of what's being proposed here, accepting other races and those of mixed heritage.
Anyway, saying to stick to ones own race for mating purposes is not the same as not accepting other kinds of relationships with someone from another race.
I'm confused..so you're saying that to separate reality from fiction, we should ignore the setting and everyone should be happy with everyone else, even though there are clear racial tensions written into the setting and lore?Â
I didn't read the entire thread, I forgot to refresh the page from when it was much shorter, so I was referring to this post:
(08-01-2015, 02:05 PM)Virella Douront Wrote:(08-01-2015, 01:56 PM)tortles Wrote: The real world is full of racism, xenophobia, and all sorts of prejudice already. Many people have to deal with it on a day-to-day basis. I would really hate to be someone who has to deal with this on a regular basis, only to log on and have characters treat you poorly because of your character's citizenship or race.It may just be me, but I find that these type of posts indicate what I was pointing out before; the good old IC is not OOC confusion.
Yes, it's just playing pretend, but I believe your roleplay experiences get to you somewhere in your subconscious.
I ask you, if you do not feel comfortable with these themes in the setting, why does one roleplay in FFXIV and not jump to another game, setting or anything, where these topics do not come up?
It just seems strange to me to stay willingly in a setting if you can not set apart IC and OOC if these topics get onto your nerves.
I'm one of those people Tortles mentions who has to deal with racism day to day. So what I mean is, if we're going with IC not being OOC, then for me, it's not rping racism. My ooc has all that, so if I'm going to keep ic separate and not bring the ooc drama in game, I have to keep the racism out of it. I could play an extremely racist character drawing on my experiences, or someone who is extremely militant against such things from the same. It would have been clearer if I had thought to quote the post or noticed there was more to read.
Now, I never said what anyone else should rp by any means. I just can't do it myself. I can't read threads like the favorite racial slurs because even knowing it's all in good fun and no one is really that hateful that it's just pretend, my life experiences remind me of what I've gone through, the name calling, the spitting, the physical violence.
The setting from my point of view has very little racial tension or actual racism in it. It's implied that it's there, but it isn't a strong part of most of the world. Gridania is xenophobic, Ul'dah is socioeconomic, Ishgard is class and religion based, but racial issues are pretty light, so I don't feel it's something I have to worry about rping. Honestly most of the tension seems to come from what city state you're aligned to, or in Ishguard's case your class and if you're considered a heretic or not.
If someone directs it at me, I'll probably ignore it, if they're insistent I'll send a tell saying, respectfully, that it's not a theme I'm comfortable with rping because of personal real life issues. Not really different from someone who doesn't like sexual scenes or certain grimdark things. I don't need that all to familiar negativity in my fun time, and I certainty don't need to take anyone to task for it in their fun time, and I aim to maintain that line between ooc and ic.
For those who enjoy that and want to rp that, I have no problems with that going on. Rock on and go for it, to say it's not there is wrong. But from my perspective it's honestly kind of laid back in that regard, and there's plenty more to deal with in terms of inter personal conflict such as nationality.
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