(08-02-2015, 02:07 AM)Shoshopu Wrote:(08-02-2015, 01:42 AM)Flashhelix Wrote: As it's been said multiple times before in the thread. Not wanting to RP something because it disturbs or otherwise makes you uncomfortable is 100% fine, but don't try to act as if it doesn't exist in the setting. People don't come to a game or roleplay community, say "Man, I'd like to play a /huge dickbag racist/" and then go at it. They play the game or read into the lore, see things like that, and decide to give their characters flaws that are stated to be real problems in Eorzea.
I don't know what more proof people want. This argument should've ended a page ago with
Koji Fox Wrote:Most of the races don’t really like each other
He's literally not saying it doesn't exist, though. He's just explaining his perspective and experiences as they relate to this sort of RP. He even said "from my point of view". That's not arguing. He's just saying they're lightly touched upon, relatively, compared to other themes- and I'm sure it seems especially so relative to his own life. (And argue about the IC/OOC separation stuff all you want, but there's a real human behind every RP character and their lives do effect their RP, even if the degree of it varies from person to person.) If you'd never played lancer you wouldn't be exposed to that plotline, for example. There's lots of ways you could miss it, the game honestly does gloss over it most of the time. It's mentioned, it exists, but it's not in your face or directed towards you most of the time.
edit: Sorry to come off like the tone police, I just feel like this thread (not you specifically) is coming off as overly argumentative, bordering on being a little hostile, on this particularly sensitive subject.
Thank you for your understanding
I don't know how much more clear I could make it. Others playing it up is cool with me, I don't think the player is any less of a person or anything because the character is racist. Taking ERP as an example, some people hate it and want nothing to do with it, some people think it's great and embrace it (I spent two hours reading and and going through links of a courtesan guide today, I have to say a great thank you for posting that, if the poster happens to read this). Is either of them wrong or less of a player for their stance? Does that mean they're somehow less of an rp'er if they do or do not participate in erotic themes?
I find the insinuation that I only like happy go lucky rp with where everything is great is insulting and honestly just stupid. Especially if someone hasn't rp'd with me. There's so much more to focus on if a focus is needed, and many other angles. If I don't like torture scenes rp'd in exacting detail, I then only want to play happy light stuff? That's ridiculous, but hey, torture happens in game world probably every time someone is 'questioned' off screen.
I'm not even saying it's not there, but having lived it, and living with it, I look at its depiction in game and see it as lightly done, this game isn't setting out to be super gritty and dark, even when it brings up a dark plot point or has a harsh moment.
If anyone needs another example, I could watch a movie based around the Vietnam war with my father, a veteran of that war. What I see might be greatly disturbing, what he could see is how much lighter the movie makes events out to be, and how it glosses over some aspects that to this day haunt him.
This is just a fact of story telling and the audience. Not all aspects are going to affect everyone in the same way. What one person sees as deep and poignant, another will look at it as fluff for any number of reasons. I don't make racist characters, or join in on that aspect, but I'm still down for other dark and gritty things. Out of character however, I absolutely want to keep things happy go lucky between players, I make no apologies for that. Because despite what some people think, there's a person on the other side of that screen typing, playing and interacting with us. Just because we're using electronic devices, doesn't mean it's not human interaction.
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