(08-02-2015, 12:48 AM)abnormalnomad Wrote: I don't know.Â
If you don't want to RP racist characters or themes, that's absolutely fine, and in fact, I have characters for the sole purpose of being 'happy-go-lucky/friend-of-everyone' that are a blast. Eorzea's racism never affects their lives or ever even comes up, and for all intents and purposes, it doesn't exist for them because of how they've lived their lives. Nobody is forcing you to RP stuff like this.
But, in the same vein, racism does exist in this game and this world and the lore we're steeped in. Whether it's the physical differences and beliefs between the Auri peoples, cultural differences between Wildwood and Duskwight Elezen, a general dislike for Hyurans after your character being stiffed on a deal, general Garlean hatred (or adoration), whatever reason anyone 'needs' to be racist, it's out there, and some people will also choose to RP it and have it be a part of their character. You can't close your eyes and say, "It doesn't exist, because I don't like it." That's not how things work.
It would honestly be better to bring up specific examples of all the races working together (such as at Carteneau/adventure groups/etc.), and making the IC claim that 'hey, we can all coexist, just look at x,y,z', than it would to take it OOC and say, 'as a player, this offends me and i want you to change you/your character/your stories/etc.'. That's not how it works, either.
If none of that works or suits your fancy? Politely excuse yourself from the RP. Nobody is going to chase you down and make you do anything you don't want to. You have free choice and agency for a reason, after all. You just need to use it.
It's really that simple, in my opinion.
(08-02-2015, 03:00 AM)Foxberry Wrote: Racism does exist within the game, we know this. Lore has given snippets and Koji Fox himself has said that it exists. I don't think anyone is arguing this. We know it, some people enjoy rping it, others don't. I'm of the opinion that; do it but don't over do it. Otherwise it becomes an overhyped cliche.
Though my bigger issue is mostly this thread in general because of the fact that this comes off as another; OP posting something to incite. Even if this isn't the intent, it comes off that way. I don't see the issue of posting threads of the same concept by the same OP. There have been numbers of thread of 'racial topics' that have been addressed already and in the end they always boil back down to this point that's already been discussed before.
We know OP dislikes au ra, miqo'te, <insert race> he's expressed this before. And we -get- it. We know he dislikes them, we know he enjoys rping racial tension, etc. Don't get me wrong, that is fine. I have characters that dislike X race. However-we've had threads like this before from this exact OP. Even posts where he has posted in other threads.
Do we really need to go over the same exact issues that have been brought up a number of times already by the OP.
We know what the camps are already on this topic. "People who like rping X" and "People who dislike rping Y" when it comes to racism.
Pretty much this is how I feel about this thread. These discussions have happened enough it just sort of feels like we're at the, "Kicking the dead horse," stage? They're not even hard to find when you search for them.
That being said, some of the posts I've read have really given off the vibe of, "For shame, how dare you don't roleplay in <this particular way>." Whereas that's not necessarily their intention I believe we all play characters the way we do for a reason.
And that's okay. It's one of those, "Live and let live," situations. I, also, can't honestly speak for how much of a problem this is out of my own experience. From what I've witnessed, people have accepted conservative and liberal characters in my social circles. There's never been a problem of, "How dare you RP a racist!"
Though, I have heard about these situations. I've heard about IC and OOC lines being crossed on both sides of this playing field (in other games, mind you, so I get where the fear stems from?). My only suggestion with this is:
If you don't want to roleplay a conservative character then don't.
If you don't want to roleplay with conservative characters then don't.
If you encounter a conservative player through public RP and don't want to be involved in it, leave, don't suddenly get OOC offended because they're not playing according to your sandbox. You went to the public sandbox. You can go back to yours and play with your toys and friends.
This goes for the liberal side, too:
 If you don't want to roleplay a liberal character then don't.
If you don't want to roleplay with liberal characters then don't.
If you encounter a liberal player through public RP and don't want to be involved in it, leave, don't suddenly get OOC offended because they're not playing according to your sandbox. You went to the public sandbox. You can go back to yours and play with your toys and friends.
IC =/= OOC
IG =/= RL
It's never going to be fully accepted by roleplay communites. There's always going to be "them apples," but the most you can do is strive to not be one of them. I play liberal characters. I'm comfortable with liberal characters. That isn't to say that I disapprove of conservative characters because enjoying liberal characters doesn't instantly make me some conservative hater. That's not how that works. I encourage players to tell their stories, how they want to be told, with the people they desire to tell them with.Â
Blahblah, I don't know where I'm going with this. I guess my point is:
Play what you want to. You can encourage people to play various different archtypes and flaws but don't discourage people from playing in a fashion they're comfortable with.
*disclaimer: this is not directed to any one person. There's just some vibes I'm getting from this thread where it feels like it has gone or will go in that direction. Try to dodge it. You're all beautiful. ♥
