(08-04-2015, 09:10 PM)Kellach Woods Wrote:(08-04-2015, 06:30 AM)Graeham Wrote: Though when a prominent developer states that something is a particular way then that's how it is. It's their setting and even if people don't like it stuff doesn't suddenly cease being canon. Shy away from it by all means, but those who seek to embrace it aren't in the wrong for doing so. If anything, they should be applauded for going that much further to remain as true to the setting as possible.
When a prominent developer states something like that and continuously refuses to do storylines that involve what he just says, that says more about the developer than the world he created.
And I'm contesting the frequency and intensity that this happens, not that it happens at all. If it was important, it would be shown and it would be prominent. We barely have mention of a very specific racial conflict (in this case I was citing Hyur/Elezen specifically).
We have more examples of Hyur/Elezen collaboration and tolerance than of outright hatred/racism. Gridania would be fucked without the Hyur and the Elezen who live there know it.
Ishgard is a whole other story.
I feel like you have missed the fact that the Hyur and the Elezen founded Gridania together. Â In fact, there's a big deal made of this fact. Â Interestingly, almost all Padjal come from Hyur families, not Elezen (we only have one known case of an Elezen-born Padjal). Â So that they work together is not at all surprising, really, and they also have a third-party scapegoat they can focus frustration on.
But I think, too, that what you're also missing is that the developer specifically said that a cardinal example of this conflict is that you do not see regular intermarriage/breeding between the races, despite the fact that they are - for the most part - similar in looks (to the point that they look attractive to everyone involved). Â And his reasoning, quite specifically, was that the races have this underlying dislike of each other and it prevents them from interbreeding on a regular basis, with their offspring being outright pariahs.
Sure, they're not hanging each other from trees. Â No one's said they are. Â But despite the fact that we know they are biologically compatible AND physically attractive to one another, they're not breeding with each other. Â And, Kellach, you do realize that humans are so into getting it on that we have Neanderthal DNA in our genetic codes? Â That's right - Neanderthals and Homo Sapiens made babies together. Â Babies that survived to pass on their genes and give us quite a few genes in the immune system area that are directly inherited from Neanderthals. Â And by every account, they wouldn't be considered all that attractive. Â Yet apparently humans were still boinking them. Â But an Elezen turns up his nose at a Hyur, and a Highlander turns up her nose at a Roe, etc, etc. Â Even though, physically speaking, they share many, many more attractive traits than Neanderthal shared with Humans.
Just some food for thought.