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RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism |
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08-05-2015, 12:47 AM
(08-05-2015, 12:08 AM)Flashhelix Wrote: "Koji Fox may have said X, but it doesn't matter because he doesn't show it!"

That's not how creating things work. A developer shouldn't have to justify his every word to you with cutscenes/ingame tidbits/etc. If it were in the game to begin with, it wouldn't even have come up in the dev Q&A. The entire point of those is to expand on things that aren't shown in their entirely ingame.

I absolutely do believe in the usefulness of dev Q&A's for lore. I do believe, though, that if it has to be mentioned in a Q&A instead of showing up in the actual story that it isn't THAT important. (IE: Going back to my previous post about these elements being 'out of focus')

What makes Mr. Koji Fox's post problematic though is that his words on race conflicts what we see in game. It's really hard to believe that the various races are 'just tolerating each other' when multiple characters of varying races form friendships with each other.

All this time the lalafells in the pugilist guild were just 'tolerating' their sensei, Hamon Holyfist. Biggs and Wedge are just 'tolerating' each other despite being mostly inseparable. Hildibrand and his assistant are just 'tolerating' each other throughout their wacky hijinks. 

I thought it was universally agreed upon that "Show, don't tell" was a sign of good story-telling and writing? It certainly should be at least noteworthy in situations like this where what Mr. Koji Fox says in game seems to clash with what we actually see.

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Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by Seriphyn - 08-01-2015, 03:51 AM
RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by Oli! - 08-01-2015, 05:34 AM
RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by Blue - 08-01-2015, 06:19 AM
RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by Oli! - 08-01-2015, 06:41 AM
RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by Nero - 08-01-2015, 10:08 AM
RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by Blue - 08-01-2015, 10:45 AM
RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by K'nahli - 08-01-2015, 09:36 AM
RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by Gharen - 08-01-2015, 10:04 AM
RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by Warren Castille - 08-01-2015, 10:49 AM
RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by 13uddy - 08-01-2015, 03:53 PM
RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by Seriphyn - 08-01-2015, 12:10 PM
RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by Warren Castille - 08-01-2015, 03:01 PM
RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by Virella - 08-01-2015, 12:58 PM
RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by Unnamed Mercenary - 08-01-2015, 01:04 PM
RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by Alderique - 08-01-2015, 01:56 PM
RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by Virella - 08-01-2015, 02:05 PM
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RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by Flickering Ember - 08-02-2015, 12:46 PM
RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by Naunet - 08-02-2015, 01:06 PM
RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by Flickering Ember - 08-02-2015, 01:38 PM
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RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by Virella - 08-01-2015, 03:38 PM
RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by Flashhelix - 08-01-2015, 04:13 PM
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RE: Avoiding contemporary liberalism in RP and embracing traditional conservatism - by Flashhelix - 08-01-2015, 05:32 PM
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