(08-05-2015, 01:44 AM)Flickering Ember Wrote:(08-05-2015, 12:56 AM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: I think that it's a bit disingenuous to characterize Biggs and Wedge, Hildebrand, or the Lalafells in the pugilist guild to be "average" Eorzeans. Â In fact, including Hildebrand in any serious discussion is just plain silly. Â That entire questline is meant to be light and silly and completely ridiculous.
What Mr. Fox is, ostensibly, referring to is what the average Lalafell feels about the average Miqo'te, what the average Hyur thinks about the average Elezen. Â We're not average, and a lot of the people we interact directly with aren't average. Â But there's a lot of stuff going on alongside us - mostly in NPC dialogue that we only see in passing - that suggests there's more going on than what we see directly in quests.
I do have to agree, however, that simply dismissing the story developer's words because you don't see it is a bit silly. Â "Show, don't tell" or not, the man is the damn developer for the game. Â Are you calling him a liar? Â Are you suggesting that he's just deluded? Â Or confused? Â I mean...really?
Well, it was just a few examples. I suppose I could scrounge up some more if you really want me to and if I'm not lazy about it.
Still though...
A lot of the quest NPCs can often be ordinary citizens or the vastly intermixed cities and towns. If the majority of the people I interact with don't offer reasonable indications to me as a reader that they are just "tolerating" each other then how am I going to know? By reading one of many SE posts on their forums, I guess.Â
Me mentioning Hildibrand was a double meaning since his inclusion along with other things  really calls into question the grimdark reality I think is trying to be sold in this thread. Which yeah, bad stuff happens in Eorzea. It has to so we adventurers can come in and fix it. But the point of FFXIV's story isn't about how terrible the nature of humanity is; it's about grand adventures and the conquering of evil.
You know the story can be both, right? Â You can have all of this going on at the same time, with glorious questing, as well as a seedy underbelly, all in the same setting? Â Forgotten Realms, anyone?
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"Show, don't tell" or not, the man is the damn developer for the game. Â Are you calling him a liar? Â Are you suggesting that he's just deluded? Â Or confused? Â I mean...really?
Hm. I wouldn't say 'liar' or 'delusional'. I would just say 'incapable of writing a believable story/world that makes sense'.
Oookay. Â So he's simply incompetent. Â Gotcha.
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