(09-01-2015, 02:05 AM)V Wrote:(09-01-2015, 01:59 AM)Oli! Wrote: Perhaps I'm confused; how many gate guards that fit the bill are there? I thought we were talking about the picture of just the one.There are two listed:
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/K%27leytai
Dialogue:
Welcome to Camp Riversmeet. I am Gatewarden K'leytai.
Our men and women keep vigil over the outlying areas of the Wyrmking's Perch, The Lance, and Twinpools.
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Panha_Jaab
Dialogue:
Welcome to Camp Crooked Fork. I am Gatewarden Panha Jaab.
Our men and women keep vigil over the outlying areas of Maiden Glen, the Hushed Boughs and Scarwing Fall.
(09-01-2015, 02:04 AM)Flashhelix Wrote: "Is there a plausible way in which a non-hyur or non-elezen could become a respected resident of Ishgard"Strength, work-ethic, and decent connections. Just ask http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Lucia
Also, what part of the whole "Kill big dragon, get big title" shtick is particularly difficult to grasp?
That seems to be far from "all of Ishgard's borders being policed by outsiders" to me. Hiring two or three outsiders seems quite plausible, especially if the state wants to maximize the amount of competent people killing dragons.
But even then, I'm speculating. Everyone here is more or less speculating. We've been speculating back and forth for 4 pages now.
The thing that I think we all need to keep in mind is that just because someone is pointing out the ways in which the lore may make something difficult, does not mean that they are saying that the lore makes it impossible; there seems to be a large amount of blending of those two concepts when it comes to arguments on the forums. I can't speak for everyone, but at least as far as I can tell, the dissenting side is not saying, "no non-hyur / elezen dragons ever ever ever, go die if you think otherwise," they're just saying, "there are some real, noticeable, tangible road-blocks in this concept that you should take care to navigate."
To go back to the previously-mentioned language of Selling It, or coming up with a Good Excuse, what we're trying to get across is that acknowledging road blocks can make your sales pitch better. Things aren't discredited immediately because there just so happens to be an interpretation or evidence to the contrary, there are ways to work around this. No one is here to throw tomatoes and shut down character concepts. We're here to try and make said concepts more solid, which in turn makes things easier for people who come later and want to know how to navigate a similar path.
It might sound weird, but we're not seeking to sink ships here. If anything, we're testing the hulls to make sure they're as unsinkable as possible.
