(09-01-2015, 02:05 AM)V Wrote:(09-01-2015, 01:59 AM)Oli! Wrote: SnipThere are two listed:
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/K%27leytai
Dialogue:
Welcome to Camp Riversmeet. I am Gatewarden K'leytai.
Our men and women keep vigil over the outlying areas of the Wyrmking's Perch, The Lance, and Twinpools.
http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Panha_Jaab
Dialogue:
Welcome to Camp Crooked Fork. I am Gatewarden Panha Jaab.
Our men and women keep vigil over the outlying areas of Maiden Glen, the Hushed Boughs and Scarwing Fall.
(09-01-2015, 02:04 AM)Flashhelix Wrote: "Is there a plausible way in which a non-hyur or non-elezen could become a respected resident of Ishgard"Strength, work-ethic, and decent connections. Just ask http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Lucia
Also, what part of the whole "Kill big dragon, get big title" shtick is particularly difficult to grasp?
I have to point out that K'leytai is apart of Saint Conach's Find in terms of ARR, "Our men and women" is in reference to that particular group, seeing as how she's based in Mor Dhona if that is dialogue taken from the levewarden herself.
Also, the 1.0 legacy lore, a lot of it was changed to better fit the lore of environments and consistency of the game's setting. What was changed was in an effort to be more appealing and flesh out the lore of each area. While I don't discredit the existence of Panha Jaab and what she says, she could've very well been retconned like a lot of other things in the Legacy lore.Â
(Thus making anything not referenced directly in ARR, like the Roegadyn that comes from a line of Roes that serve Dzemael, speculation)
However, House Dzemael and Fortemps are known for hiring adventurers/mercenaries to do their work because they're more eager to help than most Temple Knights. You have to also keep in mind that being a "Citizen of Coerthas" is different than being a "Citizen of Ishgard", which is why Coerthans even still maintain a means of communication with the rest of Eorzea, trying to foster good relations between the Eorzean Alliance when they (might) want something from the Xenophobic Ishgard.Â
Furthermore, the title of dragoon =/= being a Dragoon. One is a title of prestige and one details the core of Ishgardians capable of performing the aerial combat and magic of your basic dragoon. Those same dragoons being descendants of those from old war between man and dragon, essentially Thordan's time.Â
"Born amidst the timeless conflict between men and dragons, these lance-wielding knights have developed an aerial style of combat, that they might better pierce the scaled hides of their mortal foes."
While it's certainly possible for any race to work impeccably hard to become an Ishgardian Dragoon by title, it is quite improbable that they became one by class. It would take years of training or access to a fount of power much akin to the Eye to awaken such magics. Training that a race of xenophobes for anything but hyur/elezen would most likely not give.
(Also this was mentioned earlier in the thread, but in terms of hyur being lower class than elezen, alot of heretics are in fact hyuran and if you check many of the prisons, it's almost always purely just hyur in there. While this doesn't prove anything, there is certainly a great number of distate for hyur in Ishgard. Also the whole discrimination against "mutts" like Hilda or, by extent, Aymeric.)
