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RE: Creating a Dragoon... |
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09-01-2015, 03:33 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-01-2015, 03:39 AM by Vitamin C.)
(09-01-2015, 03:29 AM)V Wrote:
(09-01-2015, 03:27 AM)Vitamin C Wrote:
(09-01-2015, 03:17 AM)V Wrote: True, but there's also zero lore in existence that suggests Elezen blood is necessary to become a dragoon. Absence of evidence may not be evidence of absence, but it is still absence of evidence.
I'm not saying that Elezen blood is necessary to become a dragoon, just the blood of Ishgardians who took upon those dragon eyes, which were all originally Elezen.
So you're saying Elezen blood is necessary to become a dragoon.

And frankly, by this logic, Hyur dragoons should be extremely rare as well, if not close to nonexistent.

Let's say these extremely rare instances of crossbreeding happened, and the interracial kids got to grow up in Ishgard. How is it you suppose those tiny, exceptional, discriminated against family lines survived for five hundred years in a nation that constantly sends its poor and unwanted (along with some of the rich and wanted) out to fight and die against an unrelenting horde of flying firebreathing monsters? Is every Hyur dragoon just part of one of the luckiest family lines in history?

If you want to put it that way, then I'm implying that the lore that is present about the original dragoons (since Haldrath and his descendants started off purely Elezen) implies that indeed, Elezen blood is necessary to become a dragoon. Since, Ishgardian blood is needed to be a dragoon and those original Ishgardians that partook of the power of the eyes were Elezen.

I would consider Hyur dragoons to be rather uncommon (not rare) for exactly that reason, because even amongst Temple Knights, there's such a huge dominance of Elezen in their population. Also consider that dragoons are, in fact, rare. Only the elite of those lancers ever become a legitimate dragoon beyond the title of prestige and there's few enough of them that they don't care at all about the politics of Ishgard. I would also have trouble pointing out which dragoon in the cinematic are hyuran compared to the WoL in it.
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Creating a Dragoon... - by Riven - 08-31-2015, 09:29 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Sylastair - 08-31-2015, 09:50 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 08-31-2015, 10:07 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 08-31-2015, 11:30 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Sylastair - 08-31-2015, 11:51 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Sounsyy - 08-31-2015, 12:14 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Riven - 08-31-2015, 12:51 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Ashe - 08-31-2015, 02:03 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 08-31-2015, 02:10 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Sylastair - 08-31-2015, 04:30 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 08-31-2015, 04:41 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Volk - 08-31-2015, 04:46 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Sylastair - 08-31-2015, 07:22 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Warren Castille - 08-31-2015, 02:10 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 08-31-2015, 02:13 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Verad - 08-31-2015, 02:19 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Warren Castille - 08-31-2015, 02:22 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Ashe - 08-31-2015, 02:28 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 08-31-2015, 02:42 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Chris Ganale - 08-31-2015, 02:43 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Ashe - 08-31-2015, 02:48 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Chris Ganale - 08-31-2015, 02:50 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Ashe - 08-31-2015, 03:12 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Ashe - 08-31-2015, 05:31 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Martiallais - 08-31-2015, 06:06 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Ashe - 08-31-2015, 06:27 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Ronin'ra - 08-31-2015, 07:26 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Sounsyy - 08-31-2015, 11:42 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Ashe - 08-31-2015, 11:58 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 09-01-2015, 01:27 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Sounsyy - 09-01-2015, 02:16 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Riven - 08-31-2015, 05:45 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Ashe - 08-31-2015, 05:59 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Riven - 08-31-2015, 06:06 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Flashhelix - 08-31-2015, 06:12 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Virella - 08-31-2015, 06:26 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Ashe - 08-31-2015, 07:51 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Sylastair - 08-31-2015, 08:00 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Volk - 08-31-2015, 08:24 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Ashe - 08-31-2015, 08:13 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 08-31-2015, 08:13 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Flashhelix - 08-31-2015, 08:24 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Riven - 08-31-2015, 08:32 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Martiallais - 08-31-2015, 08:40 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Seriphyn - 08-31-2015, 08:34 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 08-31-2015, 08:48 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Seriphyn - 08-31-2015, 08:49 PM
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RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Ashe - 08-31-2015, 09:17 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 08-31-2015, 09:20 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Verad - 08-31-2015, 10:12 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Judielle Farendaire - 08-31-2015, 10:42 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Sylastair - 08-31-2015, 11:01 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Ronin'ra - 08-31-2015, 11:12 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 08-31-2015, 11:17 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Judielle Farendaire - 08-31-2015, 11:21 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Riven - 08-31-2015, 11:31 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Jana - 09-01-2015, 12:00 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 12:02 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Sounsyy - 09-01-2015, 01:23 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Judielle Farendaire - 09-01-2015, 12:03 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Flashhelix - 09-01-2015, 01:13 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 01:24 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Flashhelix - 09-01-2015, 01:30 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Sylastair - 09-01-2015, 11:02 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 01:31 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Flashhelix - 09-01-2015, 01:39 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 01:43 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Flashhelix - 09-01-2015, 01:52 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 09-01-2015, 01:53 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Lydia Lightfoot - 09-01-2015, 01:51 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 01:53 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Flashhelix - 09-01-2015, 01:58 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Lydia Lightfoot - 09-01-2015, 02:00 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Flashhelix - 09-01-2015, 02:04 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Lydia Lightfoot - 09-01-2015, 02:17 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Flashhelix - 09-01-2015, 02:20 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 02:23 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Lydia Lightfoot - 09-01-2015, 02:24 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Flashhelix - 09-01-2015, 02:29 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Lydia Lightfoot - 09-01-2015, 02:39 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Zelmanov - 09-01-2015, 02:34 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Lydia Lightfoot - 09-01-2015, 02:42 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Zelmanov - 09-01-2015, 03:07 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 09-01-2015, 01:59 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 02:05 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Flashhelix - 09-01-2015, 02:16 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 09-01-2015, 02:25 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 02:28 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 09-01-2015, 02:31 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 02:33 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Flashhelix - 09-01-2015, 02:39 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 02:42 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Flashhelix - 09-01-2015, 02:45 AM
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RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Flashhelix - 09-01-2015, 02:50 AM
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RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Flashhelix - 09-01-2015, 02:58 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 09-01-2015, 02:49 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 02:52 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 09-01-2015, 02:58 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 03:00 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 09-01-2015, 03:10 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 03:17 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Vitamin C - 09-01-2015, 03:27 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 03:29 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Vitamin C - 09-01-2015, 03:33 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 09-01-2015, 03:33 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 09-01-2015, 03:37 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 03:45 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 09-01-2015, 04:28 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 09:28 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 09-01-2015, 10:44 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 11:16 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 09-01-2015, 11:46 AM
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RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 09-01-2015, 11:58 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 12:12 PM
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RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 01:49 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 09-01-2015, 02:08 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 02:23 PM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Sounsyy - 09-01-2015, 03:06 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Vitamin C - 09-01-2015, 02:35 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 02:38 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Vitamin C - 09-01-2015, 02:44 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 02:48 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Vitamin C - 09-01-2015, 03:02 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 03:07 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Vitamin C - 09-01-2015, 03:15 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 09-01-2015, 02:00 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Zelmanov - 09-01-2015, 02:05 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Oli! - 09-01-2015, 03:16 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by V'aleera - 09-01-2015, 03:35 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Riven - 09-01-2015, 09:28 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Unnamed Mercenary - 09-01-2015, 09:41 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Sylastair - 09-01-2015, 09:51 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Martiallais - 09-01-2015, 11:09 AM
RE: Creating a Dragoon... - by Zelmanov - 09-01-2015, 06:09 PM

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