(10-06-2015, 04:16 PM)RiniKett Wrote: Is it possible for one noble house to politically assassinate, or go as far as actually attacking another noble house in secret, for the advancement of their own personal gain or goals. I've read one thread referring to the social structure and such, so I've read that the Hyur Nobility is very thin and is only gained through, to put it frankly, having the right opportunities and busting their ass. There is also, supposedly, a lot racial tension; so would it be plausible to say that a Hyur noble house could be targeted or even lashed out on based on these tensions.
I'm looking at you Sounsyy, lol.
This is certainly possible. I took some time to go through some old levequests and the MSQ to try to find some more out about the inter-house relations. What I found is that the four High Houses are fierce rivals, though the rivalry appears to be mostly "friendly" on the surface. However, there is easily enough evidence to suggest that certain individuals within the Houses may feel... less than enthusiastic of their peers and may resort to political assassination to gain greater favor with the Archbishop.
Dinner for Four Wrote:You return to Torsefers empty-handed, and he is thankful for your assistance. He tells you that the four High Houses are descended from the heroes who helped establish Ishgard. Although they are a formidable alliance in the face of their Dravanian enemies, they are quick to turn on one another when seeking political clout. He warns you to be careful, as making new friends may also result in new enemies.
That's not to say it's specifically happened in lore, but if it had, I would not be surprised. Also... judging by the way House Dzemael is depicted as being one of the more confrontational houses, I imagine that if any of the four houses had been politically ostracized in the past, it was likely Dzemael. Although, currently, House Haillenarte is in the dog house for their loss of the Steel and Stone Vigils as well as their inability to cultivate a successfully self-sustaining outpost in the Sea of Clouds. Meanwhile, House Fortemps is catching some heat for their outspoken views on the benefits of outsiders. While House Dzemael faces pressures from the other houses for their construction of Falcon's Nest.
As far as Hyur nobility goes, it does seem to be scarce, though one such family shows up in the Weaver 50+ questline. They seem to have good standing with House Durendaire, and as such do not seem to be greatly discriminated against. But I've not leveled my weaver up very high yet so can't say much more.
The possibility of discrimination against Hyuran nobility seems plausible, especially ones who earned their nobility recently by killing a dragon or some other deed may cause jealousy in Elezen peers or Houses which thought they deserved the kill or whatever. But I can't offer much more than speculation on this.
There are a few instances in Heavensward side quests (Ayleth comes to mind) where some people will attempt to screw over their compatriots in order to achieve knighthood, but that doesn't necessarily seem to be entirely race based? I could be wrong, Ayleth is Hyuran and I think the noble in question was Elezen, so the race case could be argued.
A Noble Purpose Wrote:An unknown nobleman offered Ayleth power and status in exchange for the dragon tooth, but it was a trick. He stole the tooth and left Ayleth with nothing. Margyt assures her that despite not having status or social power, if they work together, they can bring about change in the Ishgardian society. Ayleth agrees to work together with Margyt to this end. Margyt asks you to talk to her back at the Convictory so she can continue the discussion in the safety of the camp.
Hope this helps! ^^; I know it's not very definitive!
