(03-16-2016, 04:26 PM)FreelanceWizard Wrote:I do agree on this. There were primals before the WoL showed up, and after they left for Ishgard. Life goes on and somehow they are taken care of. The first few battles are supposed to have been very bloody in the lore, but as people learned more about them they've gotten better at dealing with them.(03-16-2016, 03:56 PM)Val Wrote: Kind of like how I knew a guy in WoW that claimed to kill Onyxia by himself because his game character could.
Nope, it's not like that at all. You're equating Onyxia (a singular named NPC) with a Primal, which is by lore an entity that can, in fact, be summoned repeatedly, that multiple groups know how to summon repeatedly, and that a group of entities are actively trying to spread the knowledge of how to summon to serve their ends. Onyxia and a Primal aren't even remotely the same thing.
If Primals are only summoned extremely rarely, then:I could go on.
- Why is there a register of people who have successfully faced down Ifrit and not been Tempered? (SMN quest line)
- Why do the Scions kill Tempered soldiers in a largely blase way, as if this were a duty to which they were accustomed? (MSQ, post-Ifrit)
- How do you have a regular supply of Tempered, Drowned, and Touched? (FATEs, backstory of the Serpent Reavers)
- Why do the Amalj'aa keep kidnapping people to Temper them and why do they have a place specifically to keep them? (S. Thanalan FATEs and map)
- Why is crystal theft by beast tribes a common issue? (MSQ, 2.1, and a bunch of FATEs)
- Why does the Immortal Flames have a problem with their numbers being drained by repeated battles with Ifrit and his followers? (MSQ, 2.1)
Regardless, I think we definitely disagree on the level of expertise and ability of adventurers, or at least the level of power primals represent, and that's fine. There's a wide range of power represented in adventurers in the spectrum of RP.I don't feel that your average primal summoning is WoL material; the WoL is only called in for the Big Deals. More importantly, I don't feel the WoL is that much more powerful than a skilled and talented adventurer. The WoL is in the right place at the right time, has powerful friends, and happens to possess two very useful things (the Blessing of Light and the Echo).
At any rate, it's largely immaterial for this discussion because, again, RPing someone with significant martial prowess doesn't inherently screw over other RPers. IMO, it's poor form to make a character whose only characteristic is their martial power, sure, but that's not what we're talking about. Seizing control of an NPC does screw over other RPers, and that's why it's problematic -- and that, among other reasons, is why being buddies with the WoL (or any named NPC) is a bad idea.
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