(07-10-2016, 11:40 PM)Caspar Wrote:(07-10-2016, 11:10 PM)Yandros Wrote: Caspar, I stand fully by what I said. Â It is what I have experienced, and how I both view the subject matter and how I choose to play. Â Kinda sorry not sorry that it seems to have bothered you so much? Â But in the end, yeah. Â After bad experiences with creeps, I tend to take a: Â "Show me you are different, and I will happily rp with you" viewpoint. Â Maybe that is not the nicest way to play, but it saves me drama in the game.I'm not offended, I simply think that way of thinking is wrong. People aren't perfect and you've every right to do things your own way. Likewise, I'm going to point out when I think an attitude does nobody any good whatsoever.
Beyond that, I offered what I thought was actually a decent solution. Â You have to show that you are different, when public opinion and thought says things are of a specific way. Â It sucks, but that is just life.
However this is the last I am going to post here. Â It is getting towards the more argumentative side of discussion, at least in my eyes. Â So if you would like to continue, feel free to send a PM. Â Otherwise, I am not going to clog up a person's thread.
Quote:Aw man, I feel for you. I played Altmer in TESO, it was a huge struggle to not be seen as a designated villain - I had a particularly memorable incident where my priestess character was talking politely to an (also Altmer) military officer at a market, and like three different Khajiit guards came up and went "Not making any trouble are you?!" It ended up being this kind of embarrassing scene with several guards because two dang elves were having tea and conversation.It's interesting to see that kind of "racial profiling" in a game though. I mean, it can create some pretty interesting situations. I don't know much about TES lore, but I guess they're often seen as criminals or villains?
My suggestion would be to just keep trying - eventually you'll run into people who are actually decent, and the ones who go "omg no lalafels pls" or ignore you, honestly, probably aren't worth RPing with in the first place.
In such cases where natural suspicion is warranted by the lore, I can kinda understand the player's actions. It's when the player has an unreasonable OOC bias and it ruins both their play and the play of others that I can't excuse them. I can forgive a lot, but I want others to judge me on a basis of my play first and foremost, rather than concept, assumption or precedent.
Well, in The Elder Scrolls lore there's a lot of in-universe racism and prejudice between the races, which is all fine and good, but it bled a lot into OOC I felt.
It's even sillier here - the lalafel NPCs you meet are pretty varied characters! Hell, I'd say that they're more commonly foul-mouthed 'edgy' little adults than a lot of the other races. (Or it just stands out more when they are, with their appearances and all. Also very likely).
And... I don't think the "prove me wrong" arguement is very fair at all. As much as we like to put things neatly into boxes, there's never 'that one race' in RP - where literally everyone is just terrible. People always deserve the benefit of the doubt, or at least a few emotes worth of attention, before you know whether or not you think you'll mesh.
I've seen the same arguement used against noble RP. "I've never seen it done well, but you're welcome to try and prove me wrong". Well... one person's bad experiences is not the responsibility of every noble (or in this case, lalafel). It's something everyone has to remind themselves of once in a while, but it is important to give people a chance. Otherwise, we'll all end up sitting around with Hyur or Miqo'te, because "well no one wanted to RP with any other race I rolled". And how boring would that be?
