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(08-05-2013, 08:24 PM)Rock Sandbourne Wrote:Ah, I remember you now, and the infamous Golden Sun. Man, that takes me back.(08-05-2013, 08:05 PM)Sylas Wrote: I just want to point out the irony of being afraid of negative-cliques and exclusive behavior from the Balmung community when the moderators of this forum and the (more or less) leaders of the Legacy RP community were kind enough to help out people that don't want to play on a Legacy server in some way.Sorry but The only thing I lead there was my own guild and at one time being one of the leaders of the tavern guild I lead.
They could have told everyone to bug off and start your own community for a different, non-legacy server, as this site has been about the Balmung/Besaid community since 1.0. Instead? They helped people out by holding voting and putting up a section of the forums for Gilgamesh to chat and hang out.Â
This is totally cliqueish and exclusive behavior. Totally.
Let's not ignore the fact that any real benefits from Legacy will be null and void within 3-4 weeks anyway, on average.
Sorry if I seem a little irritated about this. It's just incredibly rude, to me, to see people accuse (and yes, simply stating your fears is akin to accusing) this community of being full of cliques and hard to break into when the people on this site have been nothing but welcoming and helpful. They worked hard to create a great community throughout 1.0 and to see people so flippantly disregard that, while also using that community's website, is insulting. They deserve your thanks, not your arguments about not wanting to be a part of this community.
There's also a hefty dose of amusement that stems from Amaare trying to lead a community. Yes, some of us remember your actions in GW2 on Tarnished Coast. That's neither here nor there, though.
I've also stated that I'm not the leader of anything many times. So please do tell.
On topic though, I knew I wasn't the only one who's been nothing but impressed by this community's vets. Heck, I thought some of my topics would be provocative to them, because I challenged the roleplay of many when I first got involved here.
Did the vets rage? No, they had a civil discussion with me and laid out the lore. I left the discussion knowing more about the game than when I came into it.
It's been a while since I've been able to enjoy that level of maturity on an RP forum in a thread where people were disagreeing. I've been in communities that were helpful and friendly and mature--GW2's community is still that way. But it's forum is a mess when differing perspectives start to clash.
But very few of you are out there looking for a fight. I can respect that.
Now, I can believe the folks who say that they had problems with "Legacy players" in-game in the past. But the past is past. Are those divisive people still around? Have they turned over a new leaf?
Are grudges necessary?
I'm afraid that I've not had the opportunity to see the splitting of the RP community as anything but that--a grudge war. I've seen people flat out refuse to set up shop on Balmung because of nebulous negative past experiences. I've seen people discourage others from going to Balmung because of "blacklists" and "pecking orders".
All of that negativity, all of that anger, and the condition of Gilgamesh's population, have convinced me to stick with the larger community.
This isn't a slam against Gilgamesh--there are many people promoting many different "unofficial non-Legacy RP servers," and I don't know all or any of those people. I don't know many who are going to Gilgamesh and I cannot predict its future.
But regardless of server affiliations, I've seen people rally and roil against Balmung and the folks who are sticking with it.
And I cannot for the life of me understand why.