Hydaelyn Role-Players

Hello I'm not trying to stoke any flames as both myself and my better half have been anxiously waiting to join an rp community in ffxiv and have been following the HRC community for quite some time now. Both of us are concerned about legacy servers due to our experiences in other mmos and were ready to join Gilgamesh then had recently found this from the beta forums.

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1...d_results/

There is a worry that the community will degrade because of the nature of reddit... Again I am not trying to cause a panic but it was a bit unsettling seeing the poll results.

I'll say this like it has been said in the other thread about which server to join:

Make a character on both worlds. Play them both a bit. Try meeting up with members of both communities ahead of time. Then make your decision. I think that you'll find that the community of Balmung isn't going to give you that worried feeling once you get to know them!

All the more reason to come to Balmung where you'll be surrounded by a community that's not only tried and true, but helpful and filled with people who are more than willing to lend a hand and provide excellent RP'ing opportunities.


Or you could stick with Gilgamesh, and take a gamble on how frequent your RP will be and what quality of RP you may find, and happen to share that server with the cesspool of reddit.

Seems like a pretty obvious choice if you ask me.

I might make Blamung my primary server if this actually proves to be bad. It might not though the people in that pole don't seem all bad. It's something we have to wait and see to bare actual results. Roll a character on both servers (they can even be the same exact character) just in case. Any trolls will be reduced to a minimum once people have to start paying.

You can always roll on both servers as others have mentioned to test the waters, but the reddit community for FFXIV hasn't been that bad at least not what I've seen of it both on site and in game. The majority of them have been on gilgamesh for the P3 beta so if you've played there you already have an idea what its like if not test it out and see how it goes.

That Gilgamesh is the Reddit server is actually one of my concerns for those playing there. The conduct of some redditers on Gilgamesh is a source of vicarious embarrassment for me as someone who participates in the FFXIV sub-reddit, particularly when their griefing takes the shape of "what are you doing here; this is the reddit server! Get out RPers!" However, other Reddit users have also called out those bothering roleplayers on Gilgamesh because it is honestly shameful behaviour and, thankfully, not to be tolerated as the norm. Here is a reddit thread about some of the good things about Gilgamesh from someone who had similar apprehensions:

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1...it_server/

With that in mind, however, I'd also like to say that, as someone who has similarly unpleasant experiences with established communities in other MMOs, that the 1.0 players continue to be the most friendly and welcoming group of MMO RPers I have ever had the privilege of encountering, so there's something good about the Balmung court too.

My advice is to not let the past affect your decisions here. Try both, meet people from both sides, ask questions of both those advocating the Balmung and Gilgamesh communities, and see what the present tells you. Sometimes, it's okay to look at things with a fresh face and be pleasantly surprised, .

I'd advise you to try out both. I know I'm new and all the legacy people have been so helpful. I encourage you to try Balmung and Gilgamesh. Although I will say the trolling in beta was so bad a few times I had to end up RP'in'g in party chat and Tells. I wish you all the luck in picking and my the odds be ever in your favor.

(07-17-2013, 12:29 AM)Ryuusuizen Wrote: [ -> ]Hello I'm not trying to stoke any flames as both myself and my better half have been anxiously waiting to join an rp community in ffxiv and have been following the HRC community for quite some time now. Both of us are concerned about legacy servers due to our experiences in other mmos and were ready to join Gilgamesh then had recently found this from the beta forums.

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1...d_results/

There is a worry that the community will degrade because of the nature of reddit... Again I am not trying to cause a panic but it was a bit unsettling seeing the poll results.

 *notices this is the first post*

Sounds like you are already decided. Balmung should be a fine choice for you.

4chan is also apparently making their home on Gilgamesh (At least from what I've heard.) I've been a member of the Reddit community for quite some time now, and while I do enjoy it, there are bad apples, as with any community. I've actually ran into griefers on Gilgamesh that were claiming they were from the reddit community during the beta, and that spawned a post on Reddit that had some 270+ comments on it discussing the quality of community members.

That being said, with both Reddit and 4chan gunning for Gilgamesh there is a good chance there will be a higher than average number of griefers running about. It's just something that will inevitably have to be dealt with. I wouldn't let that factor too heavily into your decision, however, as you will find griefers everywhere.

If there is a wide concern about grief from two different non roleplaying communities...why not just pick a different server? It isn't like Phase four starts this weekend or anything. ._.

What Toxa said. Let's all just vote on a new server!

(07-17-2013, 03:40 AM)halceeuhn Wrote: [ -> ]What Toxa said. Let's all just vote on a new server!

 There are trolls and griefers in every community. But you are more than welcome to bring this up in the Rping on Gilgamesh? thread and see how concerned everyone is.
 
 
If so there is another rp community building on Behemoth as well.
 
I honestly don't care where we end up I just want to help a new rp server succeed.

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Might as well put these down here too. There are those in the Reddit community who are interested in roleplaying. I always say its nice not to stereotype people. I mean as roleplayers we are often called elitist jerks, but I'd like to change that. I also spoke to people who were -excited- and happy that the community was so diverse. I even did an impromptu rp class during this last phase with a guild that most roleplayers would ignore.
 
And there are some here that are actually from the Reddit community who are interested in roleplay. How bout being nicer to them and at least giving them the benefit of the doubt eh?
 
http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1..._roleplay/
http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/1...it_server/
 
So look at that Gilgamesh will be a place that even a person from Reddit can come along and roleplay with us without being worried about being looked down upon because they are on Reddit, or any community deemed -not worthy- by the roleplaying elite. *rolls eyes*
 
Bottom line is blacklist the griefers and teach the newbies. Proactivity is the order of the day on Gilgamesh and leaders who really want to put the work in to build something great are what we need right now more than anyone else. Now for those who are going to Balmung fantastic, its nice to be able to just jump right into things. Me personally I'm just excited to be building something and I enjoy teaching people something fun, but that's just me.
 
If I were that worried about griefers I wouldn't play mmos at all, seriously. A bit too much hair on my chest for that concern you know, and I drink a full eight glasses of *Man Up* daily.
 
And as far as quality rp goes, well that depends on what we do to push it. Again if you are coming to Gilgamesh you have to be proactive and willing to be strong enough and patient enough to want to build something great. If you wish to not take a leadership role from the gate I more than understand. As many have said you can't come to Gilgamesh and be upset that you aren't finding rp. You have to make it. Me personally? I do a pretty damn good job of making rp and I am confident in those coming to Gilgamesh to do the same. I've been playing mmos since 1999, I could care less about griefers and I find many are easy to convert if you are willing to take the time to teach them. Many so called griefers are that way because of the negative stereoytpes surrounding roleplayers. I have not gotten griefed -once- during beta 2 and 3 and this is with teleporting from city to city to inform the populace that there will be rp on the server. I am patient with them and more than willing to answer any questions, and for that they are glad we are there. I personally find Gilgamesh with all its varied communities to be something special. I found the non roleplayers to be warm kind and excited to be in a new mmo. Many of them were even following name conventions for their characters trying to get into the lore.
 
And guess what? I'll turn those guys into roleplayers too, and so will the rest of the Gilgamesh crew.
 
One of my most favorite servers of all time was Wyrmrest Accord in WoW, the rp was great, the community was warm and there were other groups there besides roleplayers, and we all appreciated each other being around and in time respect grew. I am looking forward helping to recreate that.
 
Open mindedness and killing them with kindness will win the day, and if that doesn't work well there is blacklisting them and calling it a day.
 
Those who are coming along for this exciting ride see you in open beta and please come to the beach party! Can't wait to have you there.
 
And last but not least bring yourselves, bring your concepts, bring your patience and most of all bring your roleplay. Because there are people on the server who want to see you. Trust me on this! I have spoken to FC leaders, first timers, etc etc who are all happy that there is an rp community that is going to be there. I have even spoken to FC's who while not a rp FC have members who want to rp, they will be contacting me during phase 4. Seen the Tempest FC adverts during the beta? Yeah we had guys from Tempest try out rp with us too for the first time and they loved it.  *Waves to Booker*
 
Thank you all who are supporting this endeavor. Look forward to roleplaying with you and establishing a fine strong foundation! See you all in the game!
 
*tips his hat and says nothing else about it*.

(07-17-2013, 03:24 AM)Merri Wrote: [ -> ]I wouldn't let that factor too heavily into your decision, however, as you will find griefers everywhere.

This. It happens.

I think somebody made a post here yesterday about Gilgamesh being a target for people because it was a recognized FF character.  At the time when I read it yesterday I wasn't sure about that point but after reading that Reddit forum it seems that was a reason given for choosing Gilgamesh.  Something to think about.  And I will +1 the post once I find it one here to show it.

I'm new and thought about going to Gilgamesh for a little while in the beginning but then I realized I would be missing out on the awesome Legacy characters RP. I mean getting sent 5 years in the future is part of the Lore now right? So why wouldn't I want to be in the same server as those guys. Plus most of the Legacy players I met both in and out of game have been awesome. I remember I kept dying on the "Lord of the Inferno" quest where you have to fight the butt load of Amal'jaa and this Lv. 50 White Mage kept reviving me so I didn't have to go back to my starting city!

Also I did the "Copperbell Mines" dungeon and thought I had gotten used to it since I did so well in the first two dungeons but I kept dying on this one part and would run back to the place where I died but was locked out. There was this Legacy player who level synced (White Mage) and she ended up in the room surrounded by like 10 monsters by herself. She killed them ALL! It was crazy how good she was and she didn't even get mad at us that died just gave us tips on how to do better! So I know for a fact I definitely playing on Balmung!