(08-07-2013, 01:14 AM)Yeldir Melfusor Wrote:Yeldir... this just isn't going to happen. I'm sorry man, you seem like you have some great intentions, but you're not going to come in and show tolerance and what not and somehow manage to reform the trolls and make them like you. You kind of remind me of one of those overly optimistic types who go into a really bad neighborhood thinking they can change it, reform it, and make it safe for people. Then they find your body in a ditch somewhere a few weeks later. I totally agree that you'll need to ensure that the people going to Gilgamesh are incredibly tolerant and can persevere in the face of trolling, but you're fooling yourself if you think it'll ever stop just because you throw out a few "LOLz" when someone comes in and starts /dancing and casting Blizzard 2 over and over and over again for the next hour right on top of you.(08-06-2013, 06:22 PM)Myxie Tryxle Wrote: ...Hey, go. Great post, great thread. As the fellow who coined that unfortunate term, I should like to clarify what I meant by it; a lot of the communities people are worried about(Reddit, for example) are in truth extremely diverse within themselves. Reddit actually has a subreddit for FF14 rp, which is gradually drawing genuine interest from their own member base.
I can't say how this will play out when the game goes live. Â Maybe the trolls will get tired, but only if absolutely no one feeds them, which is unlikely once Gilgamesh becomes an open community rather than a beta. Â Some people just can't resist the bait. Â There's lots of optimism floating around that it won't be an issue or that they'll even be able to reform the griefers and bring them into the fold. Â I even saw someone say they'll produce a hybrid RP, calling it "RP for bros." Personally, I think that sounds terrible, as I'm not going to compromise my RP to accommodate someone who actively despises my hobby.
So, when I say, RP for bros, I mean a light, entry level atmosphere that is spirited, good humored, nigh impossible to offend, and welcomes pretty much anybody who wants to participate, even if they type like dis dood and lol. This doesn't mean people have to dumb down their writing, or invite anyone to their character's personal storyline, but it does mean that our public community events need to be really, really public. We need to find ways of bringing these people to them that aren't related to trolling opportunities. Rock's beach party is one such example of a situation in which I think everybody and their brother should be accepted, and tolerated, even if they want to emote spam. If they see us having fun, and laughing trouble off, I mean, really having a good time, trolling included, they're going to see us as ballsy, and they're going to look at roleplayers in a new way.
And to be totally honest, I think that's the only way the Gilgamesh community can survive - by having a friendlier, more accessible face than ever before. By appearing the complete opposite of the isolationist stereotype that drives people to troll roleplayers. Maybe a discussion on the motives why people love to troll roleplayers deserves its own thread, as it's going to be the first and most important issue we'll have to tackle on Gilgamesh. I'll think about it.
For those saying that trolling happens on any server, you're right. But just the same, I can go into any body of water and be attacked by a shark... but I'm much more likely to be attacked by a shark if I cover myself in fish guts, dive into shark infested water, and start flailing around wildly to get their attention. What I'm saying is Balmung WILL have trolls, as will every server, but our server doesn't have numerous communities joining it that have a public distaste for us.
More on topic however, I'm going to basically say that if you're unsure of what server you want to join then pretty much just pick whichever one has a cooler name. In a few months the FC and LS groups will have settled in on either server, everyone who is here right now will be level 50 on at least one class, they'll all be doing end game content, and while their might be a noticeable difference in the consistency of RP, the RP itself will most likely be pretty much the same. All of this fuss will have been entirely pointless because both servers will be exactly the same.
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