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The one point I find somewhat interesting is that the Admins and Mods for this website are Balmung Legacy players. The same non-inclusive, cliquish power lords who will crush your spirit and your role play by their mere presence are the ones hosting the forums that foster these very conversations and ensuring they don't turn into a hot mess that bullies either side, not to mention supporting the community split with forum structural changes to begin with 
. I read somewhere someone mentioning that these forums aren't named "Balmung Roleplayers Coalition", and that is exactly right...speaks volumes, doesn't it 
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It looks to me that at least on these forums its very easy for most people not to be in awe of the Balmung Legacy players here...people seem pretty ready to disregard or ignore them in general when their message isn't one that wants to be considered or heard, so I'm not sure how they would suddenly have a dominating presence in the grand scheme of things in Balmung role play. All, what...20 or 30 of them? Perhaps within their tiny hold-overs linkshells from 1.0, but look at the LS/FC listings for Balmung and see how many of them are brand new organizations...last count, I think I found most were. And even in those old organizations, almost all have opened their arms to new players, instead of being closed off and standing to the side only playing with themselves .
I'm sure there are sure a lot of reasons for wanting to go to Gilgamesh, but the thing against the Legacy player's supposed poor general attitudes, I'll never understand. I think actions do speak louder than words, in most cases, and in the case of the Legacy players who host and run this very site, we walk their figurative streets under extremely good graces, made to feel welcome and given tools to express ourselves and opinions, are left mostly to our own devices, and I see no reason why the way role play exposure to Legacy players on Balmung would be any different.
As a player also starting off fresh here in FFXIV, of all the various aspects of these arguments I continue to read, this is the only one I'm truly boggled at
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. I read somewhere someone mentioning that these forums aren't named "Balmung Roleplayers Coalition", and that is exactly right...speaks volumes, doesn't it ?It looks to me that at least on these forums its very easy for most people not to be in awe of the Balmung Legacy players here...people seem pretty ready to disregard or ignore them in general when their message isn't one that wants to be considered or heard, so I'm not sure how they would suddenly have a dominating presence in the grand scheme of things in Balmung role play. All, what...20 or 30 of them? Perhaps within their tiny hold-overs linkshells from 1.0, but look at the LS/FC listings for Balmung and see how many of them are brand new organizations...last count, I think I found most were. And even in those old organizations, almost all have opened their arms to new players, instead of being closed off and standing to the side only playing with themselves
. I'm sure there are sure a lot of reasons for wanting to go to Gilgamesh, but the thing against the Legacy player's supposed poor general attitudes, I'll never understand. I think actions do speak louder than words, in most cases, and in the case of the Legacy players who host and run this very site, we walk their figurative streets under extremely good graces, made to feel welcome and given tools to express ourselves and opinions, are left mostly to our own devices, and I see no reason why the way role play exposure to Legacy players on Balmung would be any different.
As a player also starting off fresh here in FFXIV, of all the various aspects of these arguments I continue to read, this is the only one I'm truly boggled at
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