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RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? |
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08-12-2013, 07:20 PM
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(08-12-2013, 03:45 PM)Roda Wrote:
(08-12-2013, 05:48 AM)Koren Wrote:
(08-12-2013, 05:19 AM)Roda Wrote: I was under the impression that the Miqo'te were less nature-loving, more I'm-going-to-hunt-and-eat-and-kill/play-all-of-nature.  If that's the case, these two races could be very much at odds with each other.
I will BITE you if you continue to keep me away from my sexy bunnyman abs.

I... don't really understand what that means.

Are you saying tribal peoples who hunt for food don't love nature (because hunting/playing/living in nature doesn't mean loving it) or were you saying the Miqo'te were a race who despoiled nature and thus don't love it?  Because I don't really... didn't really follow that...
Nononono.  Not saying that they're some kind of Captain Planet villain or anything, just they take what they need/ they do what they do to survive.  They may have a healthy respect for their habitat, but their reputation as poachers implies that they may not always have conservation on their minds.  In the eyes of the Viera they could be seen less as a devout lover of nature, and more as an invasive species.

Poaching is more of a legal problem than a naturalistic one.

I mean, it just means that someone sneaks onto your land and hunts etc. Katniss in Hunger Games is a poacher -- and I think it's pretty clear she has a MUCH better understanding of how conservation works. Poaching is also the major crime of Robin Hood. Again, mostly legal. Heck, one of the major issues that people claimed (ironically) against Native Americans were that they were poachers because they didn't have land use rights where they hunted

Poaching has that reputation to us NOW because we inherently think of poachers as the ones who kill elephants for their tusks and leave the bodies to rot, but historically most poaching was subsistence poaching—i.e., the taking of game or fish by impoverished peasants to augment a scanty diet. Given the setting it seems much more fitting that the Miqo'te give no concern for law... not that they despoil the land or are hunting environmentally protected species and plants.

I say that because in order for THAT other quality of poaching to make sense we would also necessarily need to see a few things; first of which being those environmentally protected species and plants. But, even more than that they would either have to be a culture of consumers or a culture of trade -- they don't really qualify for either since they're isolationist-tribal for their two most major. Given their description:

Comparatively few in number, they maintain an insular group mentality within their clans, tending to avoid contact with the other races. Many individuals lead isolated lifestyles, even when living in the more populous cities.

It doesn't seem particularly likely that the Miqo'te are huge on trade. We also know that they followed certain species over as they crossed which begs us to believe they were at least originally semi-nomadic following the herds at the time. In order to have the effect on their natural surroundings they would have to over-consume. However, that's a HUGE racial quality. You don't just "hint" that a race is one of over-consumption... that'd be like leaving off a race had a war-like tendency for another! Even games that are light on their lore (GW2) bring up that sort of thing. It's absent with the articles on the Miqo'te so we can easily say that they are not over-consumers. That is to say the main "Friction" between the Miqo'te and other races seems to be predicated on their standoffishness rather than their consumption.

Mind, I've just a little bit of research so I'm still learning. If you know other articles I'd love to see them to add them to my list.

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VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Regulus Heartnet - 08-11-2013, 10:14 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-11-2013, 10:41 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Zyrusticae - 08-11-2013, 10:44 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by LeCard - 08-11-2013, 10:51 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-11-2013, 11:21 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Mtoto Wamoto - 08-11-2013, 11:23 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-11-2013, 11:33 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Orlog - 08-11-2013, 11:02 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Shuck - 08-11-2013, 11:15 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Mtoto Wamoto - 08-11-2013, 11:19 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by LandStander - 08-12-2013, 12:08 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Gideon Aryeh - 08-12-2013, 12:30 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-12-2013, 12:34 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Merri - 08-12-2013, 12:41 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by FreelanceWizard - 08-12-2013, 12:50 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Regulus Heartnet - 08-12-2013, 12:50 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-12-2013, 12:50 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Merri - 08-12-2013, 01:10 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-12-2013, 01:48 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Gideon Aryeh - 08-12-2013, 01:55 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Gospel Gestalt - 08-12-2013, 02:43 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Zyrusticae - 08-12-2013, 01:20 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Gideon Aryeh - 08-12-2013, 01:43 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Regulus Heartnet - 08-12-2013, 01:50 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-12-2013, 02:01 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Gideon Aryeh - 08-12-2013, 02:04 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-12-2013, 02:13 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Gideon Aryeh - 08-12-2013, 02:28 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Regulus Heartnet - 08-12-2013, 02:05 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ildur - 08-12-2013, 02:26 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Naunet - 08-12-2013, 02:45 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Orlog - 08-12-2013, 03:03 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Desmond Aryll - 08-12-2013, 02:46 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Hywel Pendragon - 08-12-2013, 03:12 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Gideon Aryeh - 08-12-2013, 03:15 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Naunet - 08-12-2013, 03:20 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Regulus Heartnet - 08-12-2013, 03:19 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-12-2013, 03:32 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Hywel Pendragon - 08-12-2013, 03:36 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-12-2013, 03:42 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Roda - 08-12-2013, 03:41 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Hywel Pendragon - 08-12-2013, 03:45 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Roda - 08-12-2013, 03:51 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Regulus Heartnet - 08-12-2013, 03:39 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Kyatai - 08-12-2013, 04:04 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-12-2013, 04:04 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Gideon Aryeh - 08-12-2013, 04:12 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Roda - 08-12-2013, 04:19 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Hywel Pendragon - 08-12-2013, 04:27 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Roda - 08-12-2013, 04:29 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Hywel Pendragon - 08-12-2013, 04:14 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-12-2013, 04:58 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Roda - 08-12-2013, 05:05 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-12-2013, 05:12 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Roda - 08-12-2013, 05:19 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Sarantali - 08-12-2013, 05:48 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Roda - 08-12-2013, 03:45 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Sarantali - 08-12-2013, 07:20 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ildur - 08-12-2013, 05:17 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-12-2013, 05:20 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Naunet - 08-12-2013, 05:24 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-12-2013, 05:29 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Roda - 08-12-2013, 05:32 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-12-2013, 05:34 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Roda - 08-12-2013, 05:37 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-12-2013, 05:40 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Falkner - 08-12-2013, 05:32 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Naunet - 08-12-2013, 05:46 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ildur - 08-12-2013, 05:26 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by LeCard - 08-12-2013, 05:42 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Zyrusticae - 08-12-2013, 10:51 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-12-2013, 05:46 AM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Raccoon - 08-12-2013, 03:03 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-12-2013, 06:57 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-12-2013, 12:23 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Naunet - 08-12-2013, 02:40 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-12-2013, 02:44 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ildur - 08-12-2013, 02:40 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Zyrusticae - 08-12-2013, 03:35 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Roda - 08-12-2013, 07:51 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Sarantali - 08-12-2013, 10:19 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Desmond Aryll - 08-12-2013, 08:11 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Regulus Heartnet - 08-12-2013, 08:21 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Ashren Dotharl - 08-12-2013, 08:50 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Roda - 08-12-2013, 09:05 PM
RE: VIERA vs Miqo 'te ? - by Vee - 08-12-2013, 10:52 PM

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