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My take on the anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon


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My take on the anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon
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RE: My take on the anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon |
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10-16-2013, 03:12 PM
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(10-16-2013, 12:28 PM)Jomoru Wrote: I can think of 5 npc males found in game off the top of my head...

Whoops, meant to type that we see one KEEPER male in game, not one Miqo'te male period. We actually get to see 4 Seekers and 1 Keeper.

(10-16-2013, 12:28 PM)Jomoru Wrote: ...we also don't see a large group of females, in fact I don't think we even see ten there...

There's quite a number of females at the Forgotten Springs camp, and that doesn't include the FATE there that spawns many more unnamed females to aid in the defense against a worm attack at the gate. I haven't counted them, but there's certainly more than ten and less than fifty. There are three males at the camp, one Nunh patriarch and two young males aspiring to Nunh. The fourth Seeker male in game can be found in Vesper bay. Couple this with the fact that you find Seeker and Keeper females in abundance in ALL of the city states, with very, very few males (in fact, none can be found inside the city-states at all) we come to some fairly solid reasoning that Miqo'te males are just rare all around.

(10-16-2013, 12:28 PM)Jomoru Wrote: ...So even among the Sun Seekers there is not as much of a huge gap and keepers are explicitly stated to only slightly favor more females...

It's explicitly stated that males are born less frequently, but not that the frequency is 'only slight' (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threa...onventions), the text reads: Though there are ten suffixes listed above, rarely do even the largest Keeper of the Moon families have more than two or three sons. This is not by choice. Nature merely sees to it that more females are born to this race. The wording is ambiguous how many more females are born than males, but as I wrote above, we can draw reasonable conclusions about it.

If we must choose a ratio, I'd guess the chances of a Miqo'te child being male are no greater than 1 in 4, and I feel even that is being generous given how scarce they are in game.

EDIT: Hunted down the Japanese naming convention page, which states that male births are low. "※元々、男性が生まれる確率が低いため、10人もの男児が生まれることなど、事実上ほとんどありませんが、伝統として決められてはいる状態です。" It also says that the chance of using all ten suffixs for Keeper male names is virtually impossible due to this low male birth rate.

(10-16-2013, 12:28 PM)Jomoru Wrote: Or its a way of saying age. "3 young women and 1 adult male" just that Keepers consider sexual activity to be a part of adult quality. This does not mean they use the Seeker method and could easily hold more closely to monogomous relationships.

Then why didn't they write "three young women and a young man"? Breeding male is a very deliberate use there, but you also mistake me. I didn't mean that Keepers follow Seeker mating rules, I meant that they have breeding males but unfortunately we have no details beyond that wording and logical thinking about what a society lacking in males would be like. My way around this was to separate my character from his traditional family long before considerations for breeding were ever on the table for him. I'll wait for SE to give us more about this (if they ever do) rather than decide how it would work myself. If anything comes to light that's contrary to what I have, then his history can be modified to match it.

It's possible there are anomalous modern Miqo'te Keepers that favor monogamy, and I'm certainly not saying you're wrong if your Miqo'te character desires it, and in fact that idea of a male all to themselves may be rather attractive to a Miqo'te female. This difference of opinion on the matter has made for great RP between my Keeper boy and other Miqo'te. I'm only stating that finding monogamy among traditional Miqo'te, Keeper or Seeker, is hard to swallow from a logical standpoint.
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My take on the anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by TheBlob - 10-15-2013, 07:30 PM
RE: Anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by Nimarhie - 10-15-2013, 08:27 PM
RE: Anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by LiadansWhisper - 10-15-2013, 08:35 PM
RE: Anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by TheBlob - 10-15-2013, 08:49 PM
RE: Anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by LiadansWhisper - 10-15-2013, 09:07 PM
RE: Anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by TheBlob - 10-15-2013, 09:17 PM
RE: Anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by Nako Vesh - 10-15-2013, 09:24 PM
RE: Anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by Michikyou - 10-15-2013, 09:36 PM
RE: Anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by TheBlob - 10-15-2013, 10:28 PM
RE: Anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by allgivenover - 10-15-2013, 10:42 PM
RE: Anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by TheBlob - 10-15-2013, 10:56 PM
RE: Anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by allgivenover - 10-15-2013, 10:16 PM
RE: My take on the anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by Jomoru - 10-16-2013, 12:28 PM
RE: My take on the anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by allgivenover - 10-16-2013, 03:12 PM
RE: My take on the anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by Jomoru - 10-16-2013, 04:07 PM
RE: Anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by Nimarhie - 10-15-2013, 10:54 PM
RE: My take on the anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by Naunet - 10-16-2013, 01:54 PM
RE: Anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by Fates Skein - 10-15-2013, 11:08 PM
RE: My take on the anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by allgivenover - 10-16-2013, 04:34 PM
RE: My take on the anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by Jomoru - 10-17-2013, 07:15 AM
RE: My take on the anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by allgivenover - 10-17-2013, 08:25 AM
RE: My take on the anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by Jomoru - 10-17-2013, 10:56 AM
RE: My take on the anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by Lament - 10-17-2013, 04:38 PM
RE: My take on the anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by Jomoru - 10-18-2013, 03:57 AM
RE: My take on the anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by Ildur - 10-17-2013, 06:59 PM
RE: My take on the anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by Nimarhie - 10-17-2013, 07:31 PM
RE: My take on the anthropology of the Keepers of the Moon - by Nako Vesh - 10-17-2013, 07:49 PM

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