(12-12-2013, 03:22 PM)Twinflame Wrote: The only place where this is really awkward is at the beginning of the game, before the first patch hits. It's best, until we start getting numerous patches, that we RP where 'most' RPers are, which I believe has been pre-50. Since none of our characters are the ones who fought the primals or really took part in any of the main story-line, this pretty much divides the times up into pre-Archon and post-Archon. We've been RPing in pre-Archon.
You and your friends. Â I don't think you can speak for "most" RPers unless you've spoken to all of them.
Quote:(obviously if you've been RPing post-Archon, you're the exception, which is okay cause you RP how you want, but you likely will ahve come off as supernaturally prophetic to most folk on the server)
I'm pretty sure this isn't the case. Â As I said in a previous post, you don't have to be standing on the top of the Adventurer's Guild shouting, "WE BLEW UP PRAETORIUM!" Â It can be as simple as playing as though the Garleans are on the retreat, but still a danger (since we also know that they're slated to return in greater/stronger numbers). Â It may not even come up in RP - since most people aren't RPing Warriors of Light who are directly involved in this stuff. Â It's just "atmosphere" and "setting," not the main story (or subject) for the vast majority of RP that I've seen.
Quote:With 2.1 hitting, we're going into post-Archon timeframe.
I'm not sure I'm comfortable with ignoring everything that happens in the next patch until the patch after that. Â I like being involved, not waiting and waiting. Â :-P
Quote:I don't know what kind of in-world changes we can expect with patch 2.1.
They don't seem to be big on phasing of areas. Â They phase in NPCs for sure, and they obviously phased the Waking Sands (which would appear to be an instance of sorts), but you don't see a lot of that in the open world (though they obviously have the technology, as demonstrated by the opening quests in the game). Â Barring phasing, I don't see how they could make in-world changes to the Castrums without borking their main questline.
Quote:In WoW, content patches always changed the RP landscape in obvious ways. When they introduced the Coliseum in Northrend, for instance, people wanted to take part in the coliseum combat, so of course we RP'd that as current. When the Lich King was introduced, that patch was RP'd as current, and the Lich King wasn't defeated until the next patch was introduced (and yes, we did spend the entire patch laying siege to the Citadel), because the next patch moved on to other things and had NPCs acknowledging him as dead. That was our queue.
But not everyone did that. Â Just on one server alone, right now, there are people RPing that the Siege of Orgrimmar is over, even though it's the same patch. Â There are people RPing that it's still going on. Â There are people that are not acknowledging it at all, because it's the "current patch." Â And there are even people who are RPing the trial of Garrosh, although that hasn't happened yet (and is now slated not to happen in game and instead take place in a book you'll have to buy separately).
Even during WotLK, there were people who RP'd that the Lich King was taken out the moment a guild took him out, even though Ruby Sanctum wasn't out.
Quote:In the current world in ARR, none of the NPCs are acknowledging that operation Archon has happened (at least, outside of the Waking Sands, which is phased specifically to you and doesn't count). In this coming patch, not only will we be running around a post-Archon world, but we'll be reacting to new events that did not exist pre-Archon. These new events will be current, and they will remain current until the next content patch lands. As long as Squee continues to advance content at the pace it looks like they're going to, it should be easy to keep everyone on the same page.
But why would you expect NPCs to acknowledge something outside of the quests themselves? o_O Â None of the NPCs have acknowledged anything you do. Â I mean, in comparison to WoW, they seriously don't pay attention. Â But these NPCs have never acknowledged anything you've done beyond a very few (the Adventurer's Guild leader, the faction leader (when you were actually on the quests for her - you can't even get to her once you're done), and the Scions). Â I don't know that that means, however, that you must RP in a certain fashion because the NPCs don't acknowledge your deeds. Â They may never acknowledge them. Â It's highly likely that they're simply not programmed to do so.
Quote:This was an issue in TERA because we sat on the Argon War patch for an entire year, and eventually people wanted to RP the Argon Queen as having died even though the game's story hadn't progressed. The reverse is true for Rift, where patches hit so fast and hard they often out-strip RP (or so I imagine. I never RP'd being involved with the main plot there, but a content patch every single month!). I doubt we'll have either problem with ARR.
I never RP'd in Rift or TERA (I actually never played TERA at all). Â I tried RP in Rift, but it was reallllly hard to find anyone RPing on the RP servers. :-\
Quote:EDIT: As far as where to draw the line, I've personally been drawing it just prior to operation Archon. This was easy because nobody would have much idea of the struggles between the Scions and the Primals. Those were all private. I guess it would be fair for people to be RPing preparations for Archon and battles against the Garleans. I don't think anyone would be surprised to find an RP playing that out.
I've just been playing as though it's all happened, or Archon is in the process of happening right now. Â But since my character isn't directly involved in the storyline (personal decision), it's just setting to me. Â But it's a setting I like having, because it provides a ground to build my character on. Â And I know several other people who are RPing the same.
(There are also Garlean players who are affected by this, too.)