(12-23-2013, 09:02 PM)K Wrote:(12-23-2013, 07:50 PM)Jomoru Wrote:(12-23-2013, 07:03 PM)Naunet Wrote:(12-23-2013, 05:51 PM)Jomoru Wrote: You cna quote it all you want, it won't change the distinct power structures around that sexual dynamic.
Nor does it change what has been explicitly stated by the devs. You folk need to stop letting your own cultural biases color your understanding of a society that is clearly not based around monogamy. It's highly disingenuous to distinguish Keeper and Seeker cultures by labeling them matriarchal vs. patriarchal, especially when the former culture is being OOCly misunderstood due to looking at it through the lens of monogamy-bias and rather inaccurate and misapplied comparisons to lion tribes.
I am not talking about monogamy. I am talking about the real power of the position. Lack of holding official or even unofficial leadership of the grouping doesn't change the fact that he has power over determining the future generation.Â
This can easily lead to all sorts of horrific abuses. Saying "Well he doesn't officially lead the tribe" doesn't matter then.
I don't understand your point. Assuming it was a situation where the tribe only had one nuhn(which wouldn't be entirely ideal I imagine), then even if he suddenly got it in his head that he can do whatever he wanted because he has an important role, it doesn't change the fact that he can just as easily be replaced by someone less erratic and selfish. He's doing himself no favours by testing his luck and behaving however he wants. I don't see why a nuhn would be exempt from disciplinary action executed by the tribe leaders. Last thing he'd want is to get himself exiled for even killed just because he was feeling a little arrogant.
You have some very odd concepts of how power works. You seem to assume that a tribal leader would have a level of absolute power that would make the Kings of France jealous.
You also seem to think these people who've held onto their traditions are going to drop them casually because someone is a dick.
So lets back up. The Nunh is a recognized position. It may not be chief, or Priestess or Godking or whatever they want to call the head of their grouping, but said person has real politicla power by dint of having a position.
Can the chief punish him for being a dick? Potentially but if no one can challenge him they have to throw away their traditions in doing so.
Could the chief turn a blind eye to abuses of power because the chief doesn't care? Also possible.
Could their society decide even if a woman has no desire for sex with him force them because that's "For the good of the tribe"
Could the biggest strongest Miqote male in a hunting ground be forced into a role he has no desire for because "its for the good of my people?"2
There's more than enough places in lore for abuses of power to occur, its not like Miqote are described as being super holier than thou tolerant types who value the freedom of others above all.
