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RE: RPing the Jobs |
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01-13-2014, 04:24 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-13-2014, 04:26 AM by Ildur.)
(01-12-2014, 10:26 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: But we have people in this thread saying, "I'm just going to pretend the Lore doesn't exist because I don't like it."

Do not oversimplify the posture and, more importantly, do not confuse correlation with causation. We are not choosing to ignore this bit of lore "because we don't like it", but because it's inconsistent with the gameplay and incoherent with the genre. I can make a White Mage, you can make a White Mage, anyone can make a White Mage. We all get specific skills unique to each Job. Mechanically, we all can be White Mages. The lore has no business telling us that we can't be White Mages because we can. Gameplay is our empirical demostration of it. I reject (this bit of) lore because it is not coherent . And because of this incoherency I don't like it.

Is my dislike of the lore correlated to my rejection? Yes. Is my dislike of the lore cause of my rejection? No. And what is the correlation between my dislike and my rejection? Their common cause: that it makes no sense.

ArmachiA Wrote:It's actually metagame-y of YOU to say she should be accepting, instead of trying to convince her your character is telling the truth.

I have no idea what you are reading on Naunet's post that makes you think she's demanding acceptance on an In-character level from the beginning. What I got from her post was the following:
The acceptance she is 'demanding' is in the hypothetical case of being given proof. Which would be akin to asking people to accept that she is a Biochemist (spoilers: she might not be one.) after showing them a proof of some sort. The specifics of this proof aren't particularly important. The important thing is if there is such a thing as 'enough proof' for the character to accept that Eric Generic is a <Insert Job here>. And what Naunet was sad about was that she felt Liadan was rejecting any possibility of potential proof, not because it was the in character thing to do, but because of the OOC knowledge she has about the White Mage lore. You know, as in: "My characters does not accept your proof because the lore says you cannot be <funny caption here>." instead of "My character does not accept your proof because of her background."
Which is, incidentally, what she just said in her last post. So I just repeated what she said and this last paragraph is kind of redundant.

I'm sure that makes me real clever, somehow.

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RPing the Jobs - by Seriphyn - 01-11-2014, 01:05 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by LiadansWhisper - 01-11-2014, 01:12 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Seriphyn - 01-11-2014, 01:35 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Tiergan - 01-11-2014, 02:10 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Seriphyn - 01-11-2014, 02:15 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Tiergan - 01-11-2014, 02:54 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Sounsyy - 01-11-2014, 02:16 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Naunet - 01-11-2014, 02:20 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Jomoru - 01-11-2014, 02:31 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Seriphyn - 01-11-2014, 02:53 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Naunet - 01-11-2014, 03:10 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Seriphyn - 01-11-2014, 06:49 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by FreelanceWizard - 01-11-2014, 03:02 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Ildur - 01-11-2014, 03:02 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Aurelie Eleveur - 01-11-2014, 03:14 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Naunet - 01-11-2014, 03:52 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Ildur - 01-11-2014, 03:41 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by LiadansWhisper - 01-11-2014, 04:03 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Sounsyy - 01-11-2014, 04:17 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Naunet - 01-11-2014, 04:57 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Ildur - 01-11-2014, 06:01 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Sounsyy - 01-11-2014, 06:48 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Ildur - 01-11-2014, 07:36 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Naunet - 01-11-2014, 07:50 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by LiadansWhisper - 01-11-2014, 09:09 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Ildur - 01-11-2014, 11:34 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by LiadansWhisper - 01-11-2014, 11:41 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Zazalan - 01-12-2014, 07:55 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by LiadansWhisper - 01-12-2014, 03:39 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Zazalan - 01-12-2014, 04:48 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by LiadansWhisper - 01-12-2014, 05:00 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by synaesthetic - 01-12-2014, 05:22 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by CalebAgron - 01-12-2014, 05:37 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by LiadansWhisper - 01-12-2014, 07:41 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by CalebAgron - 01-12-2014, 09:11 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by LiadansWhisper - 01-12-2014, 10:03 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by ArmachiA - 01-12-2014, 04:52 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Asgarn - 01-11-2014, 05:01 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by raindrops - 01-11-2014, 06:56 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Seriphyn - 01-11-2014, 07:36 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Ildur - 01-11-2014, 08:02 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by LiadansWhisper - 01-11-2014, 09:10 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Edgar - 01-11-2014, 07:44 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Naunet - 01-11-2014, 08:07 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by synaesthetic - 01-11-2014, 08:26 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Sounsyy - 01-11-2014, 08:33 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by TheLastCandle - 01-11-2014, 09:28 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Naunet - 01-11-2014, 10:08 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Sophia_Grave - 01-11-2014, 10:29 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Naunet - 01-11-2014, 10:35 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Seriphyn - 01-12-2014, 12:00 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by TheLastCandle - 01-12-2014, 12:43 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Sounsyy - 01-12-2014, 12:45 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Tla - 01-12-2014, 04:57 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Sounsyy - 01-12-2014, 12:38 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Tla - 01-12-2014, 01:36 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by TheLastCandle - 01-12-2014, 12:03 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by synaesthetic - 01-12-2014, 12:28 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by TheLastCandle - 01-12-2014, 12:33 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by synaesthetic - 01-12-2014, 12:37 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by ArmachiA - 01-12-2014, 05:01 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Rosekitten - 01-12-2014, 06:02 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Tiergan - 01-12-2014, 06:52 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by synaesthetic - 01-12-2014, 07:08 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Tiergan - 01-12-2014, 01:42 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by CalebAgron - 01-12-2014, 10:33 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by LandStander - 01-12-2014, 05:29 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by synaesthetic - 01-12-2014, 05:34 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by LandStander - 01-12-2014, 11:27 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Zazalan - 01-12-2014, 09:06 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by ArmachiA - 01-12-2014, 09:16 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by John Spiegel - 01-12-2014, 09:43 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Naunet - 01-12-2014, 09:59 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by LiadansWhisper - 01-12-2014, 10:06 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Naunet - 01-13-2014, 01:49 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by John Spiegel - 01-12-2014, 10:13 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Zazalan - 01-12-2014, 10:40 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by synaesthetic - 01-12-2014, 09:58 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by LiadansWhisper - 01-12-2014, 10:11 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by synaesthetic - 01-12-2014, 10:12 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by LiadansWhisper - 01-12-2014, 10:26 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Ildur - 01-13-2014, 04:24 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by FreelanceWizard - 01-12-2014, 10:27 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Cato - 01-12-2014, 10:41 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by TheLastCandle - 01-12-2014, 10:49 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Kieron Lohengrin - 01-12-2014, 11:29 PM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by ArmachiA - 01-13-2014, 03:10 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by ArmachiA - 01-13-2014, 04:42 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by LiadansWhisper - 01-13-2014, 06:19 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Clover - 01-13-2014, 06:24 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Tiergan - 01-13-2014, 08:23 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Norna - 01-13-2014, 09:14 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by Ashscarred - 01-13-2014, 10:06 AM
RE: RPing the Jobs - by FreelanceWizard - 01-13-2014, 10:21 AM

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