I might not be adding anything new to the conversation, but I wanted to throw my thoughts in as well.
I started XI:7 during the Beta of 2.0, and since then its been a giant dramatic mess after another. I completely understand your worry of what the people will do once they've left your group. Back in the day, I started the group without really knowing anyone previously. So I went out and tried to gather who I could and to help form the community at large. In the following months I learned the hard way all the lessons we're reading about here. It became exhausting how many people hated me because I had to remove them from the group for the good of the whole. I've had everything from juvenile sex slaves that made everyone uncomfortable to people who refused to voice their concerns with me or officers, but instead sabotaged the group from the inside.
Its tiring. Its frustrating. Its enough to make you want to quit. But I'm so glad I never did.
Today I have a group of very good and helpful people. I downsized to the people who wanted to be part of the group, and weren't those who sat around waiting for the group to serve them. Things have never been better. There was a general tension from before that's all but gone now. Its fun.
No one is entitled to a community. It is a group of people with a common idea of acceptable behavior. There are consequences to every decision. If people choose to be hateful and aggressive, its only natural that they'll find themselves playing solo.
You can't judge a group's success by their size. Most people who hold fond memories of groups are the smaller groups that they played an actual part in. Bigger groups can be successful, of course, but its harder for everyone to really have a place.
So if leadership is stressing you out, it probably means you're the right one to do it. This community needs good leaders who are willing to take all the negativity onto themselves. If you call it for a while, no one's going to blame you. But as a fellow leader who's just trying to do the best he can for those in his care, I'm proud of the efforts you've made.
There will always people out to get you, but just remember there are like-minded people out there, too. Keep your group how you want it, then come hang out with the other smaller groups like us!
Anyways. I rant, and I apologize. This is a topic I'm very passionate about. Best of luck with your group. FFXIV, like all communities, has its problems, but its my favorite game in the world and I want to make it successful.
I started XI:7 during the Beta of 2.0, and since then its been a giant dramatic mess after another. I completely understand your worry of what the people will do once they've left your group. Back in the day, I started the group without really knowing anyone previously. So I went out and tried to gather who I could and to help form the community at large. In the following months I learned the hard way all the lessons we're reading about here. It became exhausting how many people hated me because I had to remove them from the group for the good of the whole. I've had everything from juvenile sex slaves that made everyone uncomfortable to people who refused to voice their concerns with me or officers, but instead sabotaged the group from the inside.
Its tiring. Its frustrating. Its enough to make you want to quit. But I'm so glad I never did.
Today I have a group of very good and helpful people. I downsized to the people who wanted to be part of the group, and weren't those who sat around waiting for the group to serve them. Things have never been better. There was a general tension from before that's all but gone now. Its fun.
No one is entitled to a community. It is a group of people with a common idea of acceptable behavior. There are consequences to every decision. If people choose to be hateful and aggressive, its only natural that they'll find themselves playing solo.
You can't judge a group's success by their size. Most people who hold fond memories of groups are the smaller groups that they played an actual part in. Bigger groups can be successful, of course, but its harder for everyone to really have a place.
So if leadership is stressing you out, it probably means you're the right one to do it. This community needs good leaders who are willing to take all the negativity onto themselves. If you call it for a while, no one's going to blame you. But as a fellow leader who's just trying to do the best he can for those in his care, I'm proud of the efforts you've made.
There will always people out to get you, but just remember there are like-minded people out there, too. Keep your group how you want it, then come hang out with the other smaller groups like us!
Anyways. I rant, and I apologize. This is a topic I'm very passionate about. Best of luck with your group. FFXIV, like all communities, has its problems, but its my favorite game in the world and I want to make it successful.
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