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RE: Question on magic in battle |
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10-21-2015, 11:44 AM
All these "runes on gloves" is giving me a Full Metal Alchemist vibe...
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RE: Question on magic in battle |
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10-21-2015, 12:02 PM
(10-21-2015, 11:44 AM)Zelmanov Wrote: All these "runes on gloves" is giving me a Full Metal Alchemist vibe...

I don't think a small little rune circle would get an Arcanist outta trouble nor have such flexibility, but yes, similar vibe.

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RE: Question on magic in battle |
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10-21-2015, 04:05 PM
(10-21-2015, 10:31 AM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(10-21-2015, 10:10 AM)Smagon Wrote: Would a Thaumaturge wearing a glove with a jewel embedded into it be able to seemingly cast magic from their hands? You've got all the bone you need right inside your arm, why not just cut out the middle man (the staff) and just cast directly from your hand with a jewel?

It's a bit of a lazy cop-out (My mage, capable of throwing giant explosions with his mind, can never be unarmed without you cutting off my hands!) but it could probably work if someone really wanted it to.

To sound a lot harsher than I'm intending to, that sort of loophole abuse reeks of someone wanting advantages without drawbacks.

That's good. I like trying to think of the most off the wall combat styles for hypothetical characters that I will never make. The RP community can rest easy knowing that these characters will either never see the light of day or only appear as a one off villain in a private RP event.
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RE: Question on magic in battle |
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10-21-2015, 04:21 PM
(10-21-2015, 10:42 AM)Vyce Wrote: My worry about Fabric arcanima is that frabric moves and stretches while paper does not. What happens if an angle is suppose to be a 45 degree angle but slight motion causes the fibers to pulls and shift it to a 46 degree angle? The spell could easily go wrong.
Point.  That could probably be countered by inscribing the spell on a paper pinned inside the clothes?  Or if the spell is simple enough-beginner even that it's forgiving of such mistakes?  Or maybe special spell-fabric?
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RE: Question on magic in battle |
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10-21-2015, 05:48 PM
I feel like the main question to ask for clever magical workarounds, such as spellcasting gloves, is this:

If it's so much better / easier to use / has less drawbacks / makes you look cooler / even possible in the first place, then why haven't tons of people thought of and started doing it yet?
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RE: Question on magic in battle |
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10-21-2015, 05:56 PM
(10-21-2015, 05:48 PM)Oli! Wrote: I feel like the main question to ask for clever magical workarounds, such as spellcasting gloves, is this:

If it's so much better / easier to use / has less drawbacks / makes you look cooler / even possible in the first place, then why haven't tons of people thought of and started doing it yet?

This is applicable to any shortcut anyone comes up with for anything in terms of creative writing and roleplay.

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RE: Question on magic in battle |
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10-21-2015, 06:03 PM
(10-21-2015, 05:56 PM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(10-21-2015, 05:48 PM)Oli! Wrote: I feel like the main question to ask for clever magical workarounds, such as spellcasting gloves, is this:

If it's so much better / easier to use / has less drawbacks / makes you look cooler / even possible in the first place, then why haven't tons of people thought of and started doing it yet?

This is applicable to any shortcut anyone comes up with for anything in terms of creative writing and roleplay.

Technically yes.

But whether or not it applies well depends on the situation. For example, perhaps using a glove does not allow for as powerful / as precise power channeling as a staff does, or maybe you run the risk of setting your hand on fire if you try something. That provides reasonable incentive for the Usual Way to see more use.

If something is just plainly "The Best!" then there's really no reason for anyone to use anything else, and that's where problems arise regarding why people aren't already doing it.
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RE: Question on magic in battle |
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10-21-2015, 06:39 PM
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(10-21-2015, 05:48 PM)Oli! Wrote: I feel like the main question to ask for clever magical workarounds, such as spellcasting gloves, is this:

If it's so much better / easier to use / has less drawbacks / makes you look cooler / even possible in the first place, then why haven't tons of people thought of and started doing it yet?

Because they just invented it?
Because they haven't yet patented the method?
Because they haven't taught it to anyone else, yet?
Because the creation of the workaround is a trade secret?
Because it's difficult for someone else to replicate?
Because it's tied to their person, somehow?

And so on and so forth?

...Was this a rhetorical question?

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RE: Question on magic in battle |
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10-21-2015, 06:41 PM
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The creator is selfish and doesn't want to divulge the trick to others.

In fact, it can be used as a plot driving force.

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RE: Question on magic in battle |
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10-21-2015, 06:46 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-21-2015, 06:47 PM by Warren Castille.)
(10-21-2015, 06:39 PM)Edgar Wrote:
(10-21-2015, 05:48 PM)Oli! Wrote: I feel like the main question to ask for clever magical workarounds, such as spellcasting gloves, is this:

If it's so much better / easier to use / has less drawbacks / makes you look cooler / even possible in the first place, then why haven't tons of people thought of and started doing it yet?

Because they just invented it?
Because they haven't yet patented the method?
Because they haven't taught it to anyone else, yet?
Because the creation of the workaround is a trade secret?
Because it's difficult for someone else to replicate?
Because it's tied to their person, somehow?

And so on and so forth?

...Was this a rhetorical question?

In this case, no. "Gem on glove" would be something would have thought of immediately (roleplayers have been tinkering with handcasting since the game launched 5 years ago, and Thaumaturgy is older than that by eons) and if it worked, it'd be the norm.

Edit, @Oli: If something replaces a known ability, it becomes the norm. Handcasting with gloves is certainly doable, but as you interpret it would never replace traditional staves/wands.

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RE: Question on magic in battle |
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10-23-2015, 01:07 PM
(10-21-2015, 10:42 AM)Vyce Wrote: My worry about Fabric arcanima is that frabric moves and stretches while paper does not. What happens if an angle is suppose to be a 45 degree angle but slight motion causes the fibers to pulls and shift it to a 46 degree angle? The spell could easily go wrong.
Indeed. All part of the risk vs reward. Although, clothing can be patched. It wouldn't be out of the way to sew something akin to, as was mentioned the riddler's question marks, only geometric patterns, and seal the ink into the patterns. You could sew them in between the clothing layers, so they wouldn't show on the outside or inside to the visible eye, though it would make the cloth a bit stiff to move in at times unless you only transcribed a few spells. It'd be a limited solution, but it would at least be something.

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