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Melkire · **09-11-2014, 02:03 PM**

(09-11-2014, 02:01 PM)CrookedTarot Wrote: To paraphrase Yoshi:

'Who would want to play a Thief when everyone is supposed to be a hero?'

Roleplayers inhabiting characters who are more about shades of grey than black-and-white.Â

Frustrated

Berrod Armstrong · **09-11-2014, 02:09 PM**

(09-11-2014, 02:03 PM)Melkire Wrote:
(09-11-2014, 02:01 PM)CrookedTarot Wrote: To paraphrase Yoshi:

'Who would want to play a Thief when everyone is supposed to be a hero?'

Roleplayers inhabiting characters who are more about shades of grey than black-and-white.Â

Lol, roleplayers.Â

The names and the story concepts of 'Thieves' and 'Rogues' are easily melded and molded into what a player prefers. If you play a rogue class toon and want to roleplay a thief? Go for it! It's the same as if someone wants to play a Ninja as a Blue Mage, or as people who currently play their Pugilists as Thieves.Â

In the end, it's all just a name!

Dogberry · **09-11-2014, 02:14 PM**

For serious. I play my lancer as a whaler. That's pretty far off the beaten path of what the class is meant to be, but it fits.

TheLastCandle · **09-11-2014, 02:15 PM**

(09-11-2014, 01:15 PM)Yangh Wrote:
(08-25-2014, 07:20 PM)Edgar Wrote: I'm going to be using Ninja as an excuse for this.

Blue Mage IC, motherfuckers!

Already found a loop hole for this >.> Have been RPing it for quuuuite a while.

BLU master race o.o *poses next to Edgar with shades*

Master race? Funny, that's not how you spell "RDM".. Rolleyes

Yangh · **09-11-2014, 02:17 PM**

(09-11-2014, 02:15 PM)TheLastCandle Wrote:
(09-11-2014, 01:15 PM)Yangh Wrote:
(08-25-2014, 07:20 PM)Edgar Wrote: I'm going to be using Ninja as an excuse for this.

Blue Mage IC, motherfuckers!

Already found a loop hole for this >.> Have been RPing it for quuuuite a while.

BLU master race o.o *poses next to Edgar with shades*

Master race? Funny, that's not how you spell "RDM"..

Yve, darling. You can join my Rainbow Mage LS / Team. We shall be glorious.

TheLastCandle · **09-11-2014, 02:21 PM**

(09-11-2014, 02:17 PM)Yangh Wrote:
(09-11-2014, 02:15 PM)TheLastCandle Wrote:
(09-11-2014, 01:15 PM)Yangh Wrote:
(08-25-2014, 07:20 PM)Edgar Wrote: I'm going to be using Ninja as an excuse for this.

Blue Mage IC, motherfuckers!

Already found a loop hole for this >.> Have been RPing it for quuuuite a while.

BLU master race o.o *poses next to Edgar with shades*

Master race? Funny, that's not how you spell "RDM"..

Yve, darling. You can join my Rainbow Mage LS / Team. We shall be glorious.

Ah, but Yve has no magical ability. Alas!

Jana · **09-11-2014, 02:23 PM**

I believe it was also mentioned that "Thief" won't be used because a "Thieve's Guild" would never be welcome in any of the city-states; this isn't the kind of setting where one would be.

Edgar · **09-11-2014, 02:25 PM**

(09-11-2014, 02:17 PM)Yangh Wrote:
(09-11-2014, 02:15 PM)TheLastCandle Wrote:
(09-11-2014, 01:15 PM)Yangh Wrote:
(08-25-2014, 07:20 PM)Edgar Wrote: I'm going to be using Ninja as an excuse for this.

Blue Mage IC, motherfuckers!

Already found a loop hole for this >.> Have been RPing it for quuuuite a while.

BLU master race o.o *poses next to Edgar with shades*

Master race? Funny, that's not how you spell "RDM"..

Yve, darling. You can join my Rainbow Mage LS / Team. We shall be glorious.

We just need a Time Mage!

Kage · **09-11-2014, 02:28 PM**

(09-11-2014, 02:23 PM)Jana Wrote: I believe it was also mentioned that "Thief" won't be used because a "Thieve's Guild" would never be welcome in any of the city-states; this isn't the kind of setting where one would be.

Yeah that's what I remember reading of a translation from when Ninja and Rogue were announced by Yoshi-P

Berrod Armstrong · **09-11-2014, 02:28 PM**

Funny enough, in my early days of Berrodry I did a lot of burglary scenes, where he'd climb into windows/lockpick doors and make off with people's stuff. I didn't even know thief was a thing back then, I just went with the whole theme of 'street dirt thug and no good bastard' which sort of incorporated stealing. I don't think I'll be giving him any skills with a dagger right away, but if there's any allusion to lockpicking and sneaking he'll definitely get those things.

Who knows, maybe he may duck into the rogues' den and learn a thing or two. The possibilities! S'why I love this game.

CrookedTarot · **09-11-2014, 02:39 PM**

(09-11-2014, 02:28 PM)Kage Wrote:
(09-11-2014, 02:23 PM)Jana Wrote: I believe it was also mentioned that "Thief" won't be used because a "Thieve's Guild" would never be welcome in any of the city-states; this isn't the kind of setting where one would be.
Yeah that's what I remember reading of a translation from when Ninja and Rogue were announced by Yoshi-P

In what setting WOULD a Thieves Guild be welcome, realistically?

Look, I get it. I know, I really do, Yoshi.

But for a game is essentially love letter to the entire series, saying that one of the staple classes, going as far back as GAME 1, as 'not being welcome' is surprising. There has been a designated Thief class in every single game in one form or another. Steal is a classic action of thieves, even when not called thieves--I could rant about this for hours, but it's more out of confusion and disappointment than anger.

Melkire · **09-11-2014, 02:41 PM**

(09-11-2014, 02:39 PM)CrookedTarot Wrote:
(09-11-2014, 02:28 PM)Kage Wrote:
(09-11-2014, 02:23 PM)Jana Wrote: I believe it was also mentioned that "Thief" won't be used because a "Thieve's Guild" would never be welcome in any of the city-states; this isn't the kind of setting where one would be.
Yeah that's what I remember reading of a translation from when Ninja and Rogue were announced by Yoshi-P

In what setting WOULD a Thieves Guild be welcome, realistically?

Look, I get it. I know, I really do, Yoshi.

But for a game is essentially love letter to the entire series, saying that one of the staple classes, going as far back as GAME 1, as 'not being welcome' is surprising. There has been a designated Thief class in every single game in one form or another. Steal is a classic action of thieves, even when not called thieves--I could rant about this for hours, but it's more out of confusion and disappointment than anger.

Going to make a separateÂ thread for this discussion once I'm on lunch break, instead of letting it fester here.

Kage · **09-11-2014, 02:54 PM**

(09-11-2014, 02:39 PM)CrookedTarot Wrote:
(09-11-2014, 02:28 PM)Kage Wrote:
(09-11-2014, 02:23 PM)Jana Wrote: I believe it was also mentioned that "Thief" won't be used because a "Thieve's Guild" would never be welcome in any of the city-states; this isn't the kind of setting where one would be.
Yeah that's what I remember reading of a translation from when Ninja and Rogue were announced by Yoshi-P

In what setting WOULD a Thieves Guild be welcome, realistically?

Look, I get it. I know, I really do, Yoshi.

But for a game is essentially love letter to the entire series, saying that one of the staple classes, going as far back as GAME 1, as 'not being welcome' is surprising. There has been a designated Thief class in every single game in one form or another. Steal is a classic action of thieves, even when not called thieves--I could rant about this for hours, but it's more out of confusion and disappointment than anger.

It is why it is being called Rogue.

Dogberry · **09-11-2014, 02:57 PM**

All these blue mages makes my Corsair self really uncomfortable. Look out, all you future rogues! Blue Mages are not to be trusted!

Yangh · **09-11-2014, 03:01 PM**

(09-11-2014, 02:57 PM)Dogberry Wrote: All these blue mages makes my Corsair self really uncomfortable. Look out, all you future rogues! Blue Mages are not to be trusted!

Don't let the title fool you... we're just very VERY sad about the current state of affairs in Eorzea. And also Mages.

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