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K'nahli · **12-23-2013, 10:48 PM**

For a totally on-topic statement, we should all make one lalafel or Roeg each and on some particular day at some particular time, just log on, band together and just run through the streets of Ul'dah and out into the world.

*sighs*

Magnificent.

Faye · **12-23-2013, 10:50 PM**

(12-23-2013, 10:39 PM)ansemaru Wrote: Ah, also, in regards to the question of Lalafell. I've found that they're a little off-putting to me as a player not because they're cute, but because they're the go-to race for trolls and RP griefers. I think I've sort of been stuck with the stereotype of them being rude and abrasive, even with examples like Tataru in the game's story proving otherwise.

I was going to mention that, too. :< The majority of trolls I see are playing Lalafell. That can make people reluctant to RP as/with Lalafell.

ArmachiA · **12-23-2013, 10:55 PM**

(12-23-2013, 07:39 PM)Jomoru Wrote: For the second character you are really playing a garlean and game mechanics won't let you is that the case?Â

As for the first is it you couldn't justify any other race having roots in Gridania? Â Is the character tied down to centuries of family hertige or just has "roots" there if so such has been the case for Miquote and Lalafell readily.

I play a Midlander Garlean, in cutscenes it seems most Garleans are midlanders. It was fairly easy.

Armi didn't feel right as any other race. Period. This isn't hard?

ansemaru · **12-23-2013, 11:04 PM**

(12-23-2013, 10:50 PM)Faye Wrote:
(12-23-2013, 10:39 PM)ansemaru Wrote: Ah, also, in regards to the question of Lalafell. I've found that they're a little off-putting to me as a player not because they're cute, but because they're the go-to race for trolls and RP griefers. I think I've sort of been stuck with the stereotype of them being rude and abrasive, even with examples like Tataru in the game's story proving otherwise.

I was going to mention that, too. :< The majority of trolls I see are playing Lalafell. That can make people reluctant to RP as/with Lalafell.

It's honestly a shame that Lalafell are the go-to race for trolls. There are loads of great Lalafell NPCs, and the few Lalafell PCs that I've RPed with have all been really excellent, but I'm just not sure I could play one myself, given their reputation and the "feeling" I get from them thanks to it.

Edgar · **12-24-2013, 01:12 AM**

(12-23-2013, 05:42 PM)Jomoru Wrote: I mean there's nothing special about them. They are at best a "Me Too" for any of the nations of Eorzea they haven't built anything they don't have any special culture and to get the same background from any other race option you'd just have to be an orphan or something

So why would anyone ever play a midlander when they could play an orphaned Miqote/Elezen/Roe and get the the innate flavoring of orphan status and uniqueness of being torn between two worlds. Why would anyone ever pick something so boring as a Midlander?

Because not everyone wants to be a special snowflake.

TheLastCandle · **12-24-2013, 01:42 AM**

(12-23-2013, 10:37 PM)ansemaru Wrote:
(12-23-2013, 10:03 PM)TheLastCandle Wrote: Since we're playing a Final Fantasy game, I'll put it this way. To me, asking this question is a lot like saying, "Lol? What's the point of Basch, Balthier et al in FFXII? Boring! Why wouldn't you want to play a Moogle/Bangaa/Seeq?" When in reality, literally nothing would have been enhanced by their being any other race. (Well, Vaan might have been a little more bearable. /tongueincheek)

The fact that there weren't any Bangaa party members in FFXII still haunts me to this day. YOU THINK I'M KIDDING? I AM NOT KIDDING.

I would've liked more diversity, too! In a world with a number of colorful races, they ought to be used. I think the point I was trying to make is that if Balthier were a Bangaa, it wouldn't instantly make him a better or more interesting character. Similarly, none of our Hyur would be enriched by changing to Miqo'te or vice versa.

But I think the OP is long gone, so.. I'm likely preaching to the choir at this point.

Clover · **12-24-2013, 03:35 AM**

Midlanders... (*-*) *Sigh of love*

(I have nothing to add, really. Why do you like your favourite food?)

Dagny Voss · **12-24-2013, 01:36 PM**

I chose a Roe...cause I just liked them. =) I was drawn to the pirate Â background I guess. Â I also have a highlander...but I favor my Roe. Â Tongue

Gideon Aryeh · **12-24-2013, 03:53 PM**

*sighs for these threads*

Honestly I love how Midlander women look. I think they are very pretty I love everything about them they aren't over the top and many rpers I've seen on both servers play them as very everyday women. I also think that midlander men look very cool as certain classes especially Marauders, Black Mages and Paladins. Don't get me wrong I absolutely like Miqo's alot (though not as much the men as I am more of a Bangaa guy and prefer more feral looking and bigger guys)

But I absolutely find Midlander women quite attractive to look at and have loved the rp I've had with every Midlander woman so far because for me it just feels quite authentic from what I've experienced. While I have no issue with the "Hyur kitty" Miqo (hell Amaare attracts more than his fair share lol) There is just something endearing about a down to earth Midlander be they male or female. Not to mention its more of a challenge making such a vanilla race stand out in rp.

And I must say it really has been a pleasure with all of you Midlander players. Great great stuff honestly.

Darkfae · **12-25-2013, 09:44 PM**

I chose Midlander for Claire because she was supposed to be kind of generic in her appearance, aside from choosing a sort of unique hairstyle for 2.0 (haven't really seen anyone with it) since it was short without being boyishly short. She's also supposed to be lithe, which is possible with a Midlander, and smaller than say a lot of male Midlanders, an average Highlander, many Elezen, or any Roegadyn, so that she gets underestimated.

So it was an aesthetic choice...but a bit different from most aesthetic choices.

Knight Kat · **12-25-2013, 10:44 PM**

IMHO I think threads like this aren't necessary. If someone is curious as to why a certain race is played then fine; ask in the form of a question sparked by curiosity.

To me, this thread seems like it is asking people to justify themselves. They don't have to. They shouldn't be made to feel like they have to.

However, I will contribute because I feel like this can't be said enough: race does not make the character; the player makes the character.
Race gives a skin, and the possibility for a foundation of lore and back-story. IF the Midland Hyur are to be considered "blank slates" then that is good because some people want "blank slate" characters to start with.

But boring? No. I have RPed with two Midland Hyur characters so far, and they are fantastic. *waves @ Roen Deneith and Tobias Nightbringer* I am still in the learning process with RP, so I learned a lot from them.

Zac Evans · **12-26-2013, 01:43 AM**

Alright, lemme put a cork in this right now. Midlanders are your typical 'intelligence' race, with what we know about them being that they're trained in their letters from infancy and tend to be more intelligent that the other races. In your 'perfect lore-based world', we Middies would be holding a conversation about the long-term detriments of aether exposure in dungeon delving adventurers as opposed to the long-term detriments of aether exposure to soldiers constantly battling freshly summoned Primals to later be penned for a tome, while most other races-Lalas are actually very quick witted, so they'd most likely chime in with valuable input-would say 'lolwaht?'.

This NEVER happens to be the case because NO ONE wants to be a dummy-most feel it's beneath them. It's no fun to feel like you have noticeable flaws when you could be 'Too loyal to a fault' or 'Work entirely too hard' or the popular choices of haughty behavior and lack of trust. You'll find out pretty damned fast that EVERYONE has the rough equivalent of a high school diploma. Is this bad? Meh, I'd like to feel like the Middies have something special about them, but the community would have to accept that they'd have to go from intelligent to wise if they want to be 'smart'. BIG difference in the two.

It's easy to say everyone's intelligent because that's something that can't really be measured, not like strength. Take comparing a Lalafell to a Roegadyn. We both know who's stronger, you can argue until the cows come home but that ain't gonna change the fact that the eight foot eight behemoth of a sentient being can most likely bench press an engine block with their bare hands where the cute little humanoid doll would be instantly crushed. Intelligence on the other hand? I could rant and rave all day but I'll sum in up here. You could roleplay an elderly character who's devoted their entire life to the pursuit of knowledge, yet there will always be more fresh-faced youth characters who can talk you around the block on any subject you so choose-even if you happen to be the sole reasearcher and pioneer in that field.

TL;DR: We ARE special. We're not ALLOWED to be special.

Naunet · **12-26-2013, 02:20 AM**

Well, I will say this, OP: Congratulations on luring so many... xD

ansemaru · **12-26-2013, 02:44 AM**

Is that actually in the lore, or is that just Zac trying to be a special snowflake?

Faye · **12-26-2013, 03:07 AM**

I didn't really get Midlanders being more intelligent than any race from any of the lore. If anything, I figured Elezen and Lalafell would be the more scholarly races.

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