(08-20-2014, 02:15 PM)Natalie Mcbeef Wrote: Haha, details will be forthcoming. But really the biggest thing at stake will be the pride and prestige of the cities involved. While bomb/poison/terrorist plots are fun, everyone already knows which side will win. This will actually be determined by the battles and IC actions. Hopefully!Nuh uuuuh! Don't mess with Ul'dah!
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Transitioning from Reactive to Active RP |
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08-20-2014, 02:21 PM
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08-20-2014, 02:25 PM
I would agree, but sadly not. It's not fun if the bad guys don't win every now and then. It makes them look weak and insignificant. Big bads are Big Bads for a reason, so they deserve to win some because their position as a big bad demands it, otherwise its just bad RP.
Just remember, nobody likes a Paladin who always wins nor a villain who always looses. Its really give and take for the whole thing and striking a balance between win's and defeat's is what make's RP fun because you never know what will happen. |
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08-20-2014, 02:38 PM
(This post was last modified: 08-20-2014, 02:47 PM by Verad.)
(08-20-2014, 02:25 PM)LiveVoltage Wrote: I would agree, but sadly not. It's not fun if the bad guys don't win every now and then. It makes them look weak and insignificant. Big bads are Big Bads for a reason, so they deserve to win some because their position as a big bad demands it, otherwise its just bad RP. I do. I like these things. These things are okay. Let me amend this to add some extra advice: Make sure everyone is on the same page thematically. This, I think, is a significant but unspoken barrier to really good arcs. Verad's stories can be somewhat serious, but they're never going to be pits of darkness in which villains always win unless heroes morally compromise themselves or sacrifice the things they care about. I would be sure to tell players that in advance, in case players who prefer a much bleaker tone can steer clear. I would similarly keep Verad out of such plots, not because they're not interesting to me (all plots are interesting to me, but not all are right for the character), but because his efforts to provide levity and optimism may run counter to the planner's goals. This ties in to Roen's suggestion to consider what themes you want to address in your story when planning it - don't just consider what themes, but how you want to address them in terms of tone. Verad Bellveil's Profile | The Case of the Ransacked Rug | Verad's Fate Sheet
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RE: Transitioning from Reactive to Active RP |
08-20-2014, 07:31 PM
Thank you, Hornet, for making this thread. It's something I've been struggling A LOT with over the last couple of months, being a very reactive RPer myself. And a thank you to all the folks that have responded so far.
I do have a couple follow-up questions on some of the great advice presented so far. And for a bit of perspective... I'd describe myself as a reactive tabletop RPer trying to transition into an active MMO RPer. With most of my MMO RP experience being more casual/tavern style rp until FF14's launch. So I don't have much experience at being in MMO RP plot arcs. How do folks here determine when an NPC (or badguy/antagonist) is important enough to warrant creating and dragging through the tutorial (and potentially lvling further)? Or do NPCs generally stay written but not seen? Can I get a few more tips on how folks here (particularly those that run the Group Driven style plots over the Character Story arcs) juggle finding time to actually run your 'main' between directing story/playing npcs/badguys? That's actually one of my main concerns... I'm quite fond of Jaques(and my alts) and don't want to feel trapped in playing weeks and weeks of not Jaques(et al). |
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08-20-2014, 08:20 PM
I generally avoid making alts to represent NPCs on the following grounds:
-I am lazy -If I spend that much time and effort on an alt for RP purposes, I'm going to want to keep the alt alive in RP. This begins the transition from NPC to PC, and I just don't have the time for that. -Other people will start to want to keep the alt alive as well as a result of that same transition, and it can be difficult to eliminate a character when there are other players who want to keep it alive. Verad Bellveil's Profile | The Case of the Ransacked Rug | Verad's Fate Sheet
Current Fate-14 Storyline:Â Merchant, Marine |
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08-20-2014, 08:22 PM
Hrm... well I would offer two idea's to the matter of NPC's.
Forum RP seem;s to do the best job when it come's to NPC. It's easy and there is no relative confusion or mess involved, mainly because you have to imagine everything. The other idea is to only establish alt PC's for characters that have an important role in the plot. Thats the only reason why I would think of an NPC alt being allowed to exist. |
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08-20-2014, 08:31 PM
I'm in the same boat. I'd offer advice if I had any, but we're in the same position. But some of the responses here from others have proved to be useful. Â There needs to be more "take charge" RPers out there.
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08-20-2014, 08:54 PM
It seems like something simple and, to some people, it is. You just think of a story and start roaming around RPing it from there. The problem I've always faced is getting people on board that are interested in your ideas, or getting people that want to join you.
It's hard to get people on board with RP and get stories going. I like to dabble as an active and a reactive RPer, but I also like for people to forge their own path and do their own thing. I've found that it's difficult to recruit people willing to be villains that will follow their own path in the RP rather than work with something that's preordained or pre-planned. I don't mind having a particular end goal in mind, but I do like it when all players have the ability to change that plan based on the actions of their characters. This.. probably wasn't a suggestion so much as an acknowledgment of understanding. If you ever do wish to RP or want someone to RP with, you're more than welcome to call on me. I'd be glad to get involved in anything =) |
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