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Gegenji · **02-27-2015, 09:18 AM**

(02-27-2015, 05:54 AM)FloriaRaine Wrote:
(02-27-2015, 05:37 AM)hauntmedoitagain Wrote: Depends on the character. Sometimes drawing inspiration from their actual level for progression is nice, other times it's just not really needed.

About the only real draw for an RP character to reach 50 here is glamours, anyway.

Glamours and additional dungeon rp!

That's basically it. Hit 50 so you can gain access to the biggest wardrobe possible for mixing and matching! Especially since there's quite the spread of interesting choices that are only accessible at 50 (relic gear, Trial weapons, stuff from CT/ST/WoD).

Makes me kinda sad that I have to grind Judge up to decent levels just so I can make him the tin can I want him to be. Sad

Stormsrage00 · **02-27-2015, 12:57 PM**

(02-27-2015, 09:18 AM)Gegenji Wrote:
(02-27-2015, 05:54 AM)FloriaRaine Wrote:
(02-27-2015, 05:37 AM)hauntmedoitagain Wrote: Depends on the character. Sometimes drawing inspiration from their actual level for progression is nice, other times it's just not really needed.

About the only real draw for an RP character to reach 50 here is glamours, anyway.

Glamours and additional dungeon rp!

That's basically it. Hit 50 so you can gain access to the biggest wardrobe possible for mixing and matching! Especially since there's quite the spread of interesting choices that are only accessible at 50 (relic gear, Trial weapons, stuff from CT/ST/WoD).

Makes me kinda sad that I have to grind Judge up to decent levels just so I can make him the tin can I want him to be.

This is basically my problem in every MMO I've played >.<

I always have the idea of "I want my character to look like this...Oh dang have to be max level for that *sighs and starts grinding.*" That usually puts me on a one track mind to complete the progression process and I forget to connect with people and RP in the mean time...Â

FFXIV is the first time I took it relatively slowly, though my erratic schedule up until now didn't really help me maintain any connections ;n;

Steel Wolf · **03-01-2015, 09:00 AM**

Steel is a level 50 PLD and WAR, but has lived and trained with swords her entire life...so she's far more comfortable with a sword in her hand than an axe. Though she has a natural level of ability with her axe, its mostly just taking advantage of her size and her strength--she has been bested by someone with far more formal training.

Flickering Ember · **03-01-2015, 12:00 PM**

I suppose I don't think about it since I am never level 1 for long. I realize there are multiple classes per character but I just don't think about it. I don't enjoy saying I am X class in RP because....well...I don't really think fantasy based classes are realistic or versatile enough for my tastes. It is about how my character carries herself rather than what she is skilled at. It doesn't matter if she is holding a spear or a dagger, she is going to go kill with it. She is based off of wild animals and ancient humans so think someone who fights with instinct.

So I guess you can count me as one of the ones who doesn't think about levels and classes. I think about fighting styles first. Particularly because I am not Rping while leveling so there is no one to rp my character's advancement with.

Stormsrage00 · **03-02-2015, 12:20 PM**

(03-01-2015, 12:00 PM)Flickering Ember Wrote: I suppose I don't think about it since I am never level 1 for long. I realize there are multiple classes per character but I just don't think about it. I don't enjoy saying I am X class in RP because....well...I don't really think fantasy based classes are realistic or versatile enough for my tastes. It is about how my character carries herself rather than what she is skilled at. It doesn't matter if she is holding a spear or a dagger, she is going to go kill with it. She is based off of wild animals and ancient humans so think someone who fights with instinct.

So I guess you can count me as one of the ones who doesn't think about levels and classes. I think about fighting styles first. Particularly because I am not Rping while leveling so there is no one to rp my character's advancement with.

I totally agree with you in that sometimes a class can be very limited in scope. Soldiers (Warriors/fighters) throughout history often had to gain proficiency in a number of different weapons and, in many cases, some form of unarmed combat style. It has always bothered me a bit when a class has been shoved into a tiny little box a-la "Oh you're a Warrior? Then you only know how to use an axe."

And I completely relate to your last point. I always had difficulty RP'ing advancement with any degree of consistency. Usually because no one else is there to partake in my advancement ._.

SicketySix · **03-02-2015, 03:14 PM**

I always kept character level separate from RP, reason being that on a weekend, I can go from level 1-30. That gives no way to RP your advancement, unless you just don't level your class for the fact of not leveling it for said RP reasons.

Gegenji · **03-02-2015, 03:33 PM**

I realized that I just commented on what good hitting 50 was for, but never answered the actual question.

As several folks have mentioned, I try to keep OOC levels and IC experience separate... for the most part. For example, Chachan only just got inducted as a Free Paladin, so he obviously wouldn't be a level 50 PLD like he is IG. However, he is supposed to be a really good smith, so I actively leveled ARM and BSM to reflect that (and for the costumes~). Since I'm going for the Vulcan Lucis as his "IC" smithing tool, I have to max all the other crafting classes OOCly, while ICly he isn't able to cook or weave or SCIENCE. I just need them for the cross-class skills so I can smith with greater success.

However, if I were to try and abstract experience into levels... I wouldn't put level 1 at Black Belt. In game, this is you first taking up the profession - whether you picked it as your starting class or not. Starting on the path of Thaumaturgy, of the Lancer, of the Sword and Shield... level one is you enrolling for your first martial arts classes and your first task is you first "lessons" abstracted into an easily understood form - beat up 10 rats.

Then, you hit a different "tier" with each five levels, like training to get to the next belt of skill. If 1 is White, 5 is Yellow, 10 Orange, 15 Green, 20 Blue, 25 Red, and then you reach Black Belt (and your "class" capper) at 30. Which is, conveniently enough, when you gain access to the Jobs and a higher level of power far beyond the ken of your common Eorzean citizen. To continue the comparison, these are the higher "dan" of Black Belt - going from First Degree to Second and so on... but in a more fantastical sense.

You're not just punching anymore, after all, you're channeling your inner aether (chakra) to put more force into that punch. You're not just swinging an axe around, you're putting the power of your Inner Beast into it. You've gone beyond basic magics into forgotten or even forbidden arcane arts. To the standard person, you might even seem superhuman.

So, I wouldn't consider 1 the Black Belt. I would bet you could abstract most non-combatant NPCs, if they've taken any form of self-defense courses or such... to be in the 1-10 level. Unless we get into crafting, which is its own thing... though at higher levels you're able to straight up make clockwork automatons and make use of the most fantastical materials.

Zac Evans · **03-02-2015, 03:46 PM**

'waht iz sword?'

'This sword? /holds up rock'

'AHHH!!!! MONSTER! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!! /bee'

Caspar · **03-02-2015, 04:17 PM**

I dunno, could a black belt kill a giant bee? Ignoring the fact that a giant bee couldn't exist, it seems like an adventurer can do some pretty amazing stuff from lvl 1 to me. Killing a ram with nothing but your bare hands or bone hora seems impressive in a real life context, but is mundane in a fantasy context, so it complicates things.

Gegenji · **03-02-2015, 04:24 PM**

(03-02-2015, 04:17 PM)Caspar Wrote: I dunno, could a black belt kill a giant bee? Ignoring the fact that a giant bee couldn't exist, it seems like an adventurer can do some pretty amazing stuff from lvl 1 to me. Killing a ram with nothing but your bare hands or bone hora seems impressive in a real life context, but is mundane in a fantasy context, so it complicates things.

Right, it's the fantasy context part that skews things a bit. After all, we have a bunch of wasting-away refugees outside with said giant bees. Of course, they're not very aggressive, so that might not mean very much at all.

Also, we have to remember that the bees themselves are level 1. From that we can deduce, in this case, that they are also probably pretty week, all things considered. So a black belt would probably be able to handle one easily enough, whether we're abstracting black belt status to 1 or 30.

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