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D'eshel · **04-17-2015, 09:22 AM**

Another thing worth remembering is that ERP is not -the only- type of RP that can go dark and wreck friendships, as others have mentioned, which somewhat relates to my earlier post.

People can be just uncomfortable with other "mature" themes or even types of RP/characters that don't cross that border. I've heard of cases where people felt hurt when overly rude type of characters harassed their toons, even if just verbally.

So it all boils down to what we accept and what we don't. I'm tolerant of a lot of things and I'm a patient person, but that doesn't mean I keep thinking that everyone around me is the same. The same applies to everyone out there. Maybe someone is fine with ERP but has a problem with, say, roleplaying out torture scenes (even if mild). You're playing with real people, not A.Is and respect should be shared across both parties. This is the most important rule of RP, no matter what type it is.

Warren Castille · **04-17-2015, 09:24 AM**

(04-17-2015, 09:22 AM)Deshel Wrote: Another thing worth remembering is that ERP is not -the only- type of RP that can go dark and wreck friendships, as others have mentioned, which somewhat relates to my earlier post.

It's not even limited to roleplay. We're interacting with strangers online, so there's always going to be a possibility of things not working. I've seen people blow up over rare drops, too.

No intonation of text + no body language = minefields.

Bryn · **04-17-2015, 09:25 AM**

(04-17-2015, 09:24 AM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(04-17-2015, 09:22 AM)Deshel Wrote: Another thing worth remembering is that ERP is not -the only- type of RP that can go dark and wreck friendships, as others have mentioned, which somewhat relates to my earlier post.

It's not even limited to roleplay. We're interacting with strangers online, so there's always going to be a possibility of things not working. I've seen people blow up over rare drops, too.

No intonation of text + no body language = minefields.

OMFG NO U

Warren Castille · **04-17-2015, 09:27 AM**

(04-17-2015, 09:25 AM)Bryn Wrote:
(04-17-2015, 09:24 AM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(04-17-2015, 09:22 AM)Deshel Wrote: Another thing worth remembering is that ERP is not -the only- type of RP that can go dark and wreck friendships, as others have mentioned, which somewhat relates to my earlier post.

It's not even limited to roleplay. We're interacting with strangers online, so there's always going to be a possibility of things not working. I've seen people blow up over rare drops, too.

No intonation of text + no body language = minefields.

OMFG NO U

SAY IT TO MY FACE, BRYN

Bryn · **04-17-2015, 09:28 AM**

(04-17-2015, 09:27 AM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(04-17-2015, 09:25 AM)Bryn Wrote:
(04-17-2015, 09:24 AM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(04-17-2015, 09:22 AM)Deshel Wrote: Another thing worth remembering is that ERP is not -the only- type of RP that can go dark and wreck friendships, as others have mentioned, which somewhat relates to my earlier post.

It's not even limited to roleplay. We're interacting with strangers online, so there's always going to be a possibility of things not working. I've seen people blow up over rare drops, too.

No intonation of text + no body language = minefields.

OMFG NO U

SAY IT TO MY FACE, BRYN

FITE ME BRUH

Melodia · **04-17-2015, 09:29 AM**

(04-17-2015, 09:25 AM)Bryn Wrote:
(04-17-2015, 09:24 AM)Warren Castille Wrote:
(04-17-2015, 09:22 AM)D Wrote: Another thing worth remembering is that ERP is not -the only- type of RP that can go dark and wreck friendships, as others have mentioned, which somewhat relates to my earlier post.

It's not even limited to roleplay. We're interacting with strangers online, so there's always going to be a possibility of things not working. I've seen people blow up over rare drops, too.

No intonation of text + no body language = minefields.

OMFG NO U

[INSERT RAGE HERE] I quit!

Cactuar

*just being silly...am not quitting and have no rage Tongue

***Alothia*** · **04-17-2015, 09:29 AM**

All in all, no matter what you do or don't do, mature themes, ERP, whatever it may be...the key is really respect and communication.

Talk about what makes you comfortable, and respect people's decisions.

It really should be the golden rule anyway.

D'eshel · **04-17-2015, 09:31 AM**

(04-17-2015, 09:29 AM)Alothia Wrote: All in all, no matter what you do or don't do, mature themes, ERP, whatever it may be...the key is really respect and communication.

Talk about what makes you comfortable, and respect people's decisions.

It really should be the golden rule anyway.

It is to every good roleplayer, or at least I hope it is.

It's not about primarily having fun, because you can have fun while ruining someone's life, as I'm sure everyone here is aware of.

Scaraphae · **04-17-2015, 09:34 AM**

I'll just add that the one major difference I've found between this community and that of my previous MMO is actually how much more mature regarding ERP it seems to be. I haven't encountered much in the way of witch-hunting and people have still spoken to and rped with me when it's become clear they weren't getting into my chars panties.Â

For myself, I tend to avoid ERP mainly because I've had far too many bad experiences in the past and find it difficult to say no to things/people. I have no issue with it, it's just not for me.

Warren Castille · **04-17-2015, 09:35 AM**

ERP is a lot like sex in real life: You really should only do it with people you trust.

Hammersmith · **04-17-2015, 09:36 AM**

The points that humans are terrible fucking creatures is a valid one.

I think it's worth emphasizing again though that stuff like ERP preys on and points towards emotional entanglement on a scale that is beyond just gettin angry, gettin hilarious, or expounding on length about totalitarian regimes being worthy of blowing up.

Nerds are a clannish, cliquish (You notice how much 'us' vs' them' wording there is already in this thread?), closed off community at the best of times. (Yeah, sure, we welcome new folks but let's face facts: We're also our own worst gatekeepers. Â I refer you to all the lore arguments and Cat-Goon worries as recent evidence y'honor.) Â It means nerds bond harder than most people, when they think they click.

As I said before: This sort of thing aims at things Nerds are vulnerable towards: Loneliness, passion, attachment, possessiveness, and self esteem.

While all of those might align in any point in any situation, ever, ERP, relationship RP, and related facets of this strange, red, pulsing, wet jewel of a topic concentrate them all into a alluring diamond that serves as a bug zapper for nerd sensibilities, or even basic HUMAN sensibilities.

Us nerds just happen to get touched and set off in them easily given how deep those mental rivers we tote around run.

Be aware. Â Be considerate. Be kind. Communicate. Â This sort of stuff isn't dangerous until you make it, (Or worse, and more often: Someone else makes it) but it's real easy to make it disrespectful, or worse, dangerous if you aren't aware. Â Don't take this as my saying it's your fault if something happens or goes wrong, just to be aware as you would and should be in the realms of relationships even if they're just IC. Â You're dealing with a human behind that keyboard. Â Don't fuck them over and up.

It's worth noting here: Out abusers. Â Out them instantly. Â Out them loudly. Â Expose people who try to exploit. Â Log things when they happen. Â Keep them. Â Bring it out into the open. Â Do not let someone play the "Well I didn't" game with you. Â Be prepared to drag people into the light of day and into Sony's harassment report system and laugh while you do it because You Are Good Enough and Worth That Protection.

Don't let anyone tell you different, don't let anyone else try to crush you to get what they want out of something.

Know that good people are around for you to lean on if you need it. Â Lean on them, hard. Â Get friends that will tell you when you're committing bullshit, and when bullshit is being committed on you. Â It's the best defense. Â The Best.

Like I said. Â Be safe out there, human meat vessels.

It's a strange, wonderful, and sometimes sticky, world of storytelling.

Just because some people are terrible cannibalistic pigs in human skin isn't reason to avoid it.

Nebbs · **04-17-2015, 09:41 AM**

(04-17-2015, 09:35 AM)Warren Castille Wrote: ERP is a lot like sex in real life: You really should only do it with people you trust.

I am sure there is a Rule #34 equivalent here some place, the gap from "should" to what actually goes on is probably huge. In real life and consequently ERP.

Cato · **04-17-2015, 01:23 PM**

I've always felt as though a lot of role-players are far too liberal, loose and open when it comes to ERP. Much like in the real world I don't particularly care to know about the intricate details - even in passing - about people's bedroom activities.
It's a very private affair and that doesn't change simply because 'it's role-play'. That's a great way to sweep something under the rug and pretend as if it's irrelevant when it really isn't.

It's no secret that ERP is a massive source of drama throughout the role-playing community across numerous MMO's. I'm sure most of us have heard horror stories involving clingy individuals not backing off when they're told someone isn't interested in sleeping with their character. Or the grim tales about guild leaders/officers being seduced and led astray by manipulative individuals which then leads to massive drama as the guild ends up crumbling into dust.

I pride myself on honesty and so I'll state as a disclaimer that I've engaged in ERP myself. I've only ever done it with people I've known and trusted for months or years at a time though and when I do do it it's usually with one of my partner's characters.

ERP becomes something very dangerous when people try to approach it from the angle of it being completely justified. There's a time and a place for it, not everybody wants to get involved with it and many of those who do get involved are volatile and unpredictable.

...and as a final controversial point let me state that whilst I believe that ERP is a valid form of storytelling in many cases it's just a case of two people doing it because they want to get their rocks off. There's not necessarily anything wrong with that, mind you - it can be a case of someone wanting to tell a good story and take pleasure in writing a naughty scene. Just don't dance around the issue and pretend as if that is never the case because it's more likely than unlikely.

Zetchryn · **04-17-2015, 02:34 PM**

(04-17-2015, 01:23 PM)Graeham Ridgefield Wrote: -SNIP-
...and as a final controversial point let me state that whilst I believe that ERP is a valid form of storytelling in many cases it's just a case of two people doing it because they want to get their rocks off. There's not necessarily anything wrong with that, mind you - it can be a case of someone wanting to tell a good story and take pleasure in writing a naughty scene. Just don't dance around the issue and pretend as if that is never the case because it's more likely than unlikely.

I'll admit I ERP. I ERP often and frequently, with multiple partners, sometimes at the same time (L-lewd). It 90% of the time isn't about the sexual gratificaion to me. Can I get aroused from it? Yup. Do I pleasure myself while I write? I think all of.. Three times in my career, but that's also because I write this shit for a living. This is a job to me.

Now onto another topic... I'm surprised and encouraged by the overwhelmingly POSITIVE attitudes of everyone here, and how everyone is willing to discuss this in a mature, safe way. This speaks wonders, it truly does... And I'm happy to be a part of this community.

V'aleera · **04-17-2015, 02:39 PM**

(04-17-2015, 01:23 PM)Graeham Ridgefield Wrote: more likely than unlikely.

This assertion, no matter the topic, demands proof to support it.

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