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EkheiBalduin · **08-12-2015, 05:23 AM**

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6. I never actually thought about the timeline when I was building E'khei. Now that I'm trying to put everything together with some wiki additions ... it's a disaster. I can't have him join the Flames when he was 18, if the Flames don't officially exist until he's 21. Now ... I have to cram some things into a one year time slot. I'm sure everything will work out fine. Thumbsup

7. I sometimes wish I would have played 1.0 (I wasn't aware of it at the time). Then I could have, hopefully, had all kinds of semi-lost lore regarding the Chocobo trade with Ishgard. Well, I'd hope it was more in-depth, but I highly doubt if the information existed at all.

8. I used to ERP several years ago. Now, fade to black is my best friend.

9. Yes, I do judge you if your grammar and spelling are horrible. The degeneration of English into text chat breaks my heart. "i c wut u 8 4 diner", literally makes me want to strangle someone. I, myself, am not perfect, but at least I try. Honest mistakes are fine, though, as most people tend to correct themselves.

10. Little emotes like the text smiley faces and such, have their place. It's definitely not in RP. Random chatter is fine. Just don't over use it. Some of the bigger ones are pretty cool, but dear lord, don't spam the thing everywhere. I'll probably blacklist you, just so I never have to see it again.

13uddy · **08-12-2015, 11:04 AM**

(08-12-2015, 05:23 AM)EkheiBalduin Wrote: 9. Â Yes, I do judge you if your grammar and spelling are horrible. Â The degeneration of English into text chat breaks my heart. Â "i c wut u 8 4 diner", literally makes me want to strangle someone. Â I, myself, am not perfect, but at least I try. Â Honest mistakes are fine, though, as most people tend to correct themselves.

I have a possibly bad habit (depending on one's point of view) of reacting in character to people that type that way and ask things like "Are you having a stroke?" even if they are not in character themselves. Â

I don't mind if someone is sending a quick message in shorthand while they are in the middle of some complex situation where they need focus and to keep the keyboard free. Â But if someone is just standing around a safe area or trying to RP in nothing but shorthand? Â Yeah, I'm going to get a twitch or three and respond in some smart-aleck manner.

Masaki Moui · **08-12-2015, 03:35 PM**

Confession: Even though I spend a ton of time making a detailed character, I often find that the game interface hands me parts of my character I wouldn't have considered on my own. Sometimes the RNG system adds its own stroke in determining my character(s), even whether or not a character seems particularly lucky in various ways.

In other instances, the randomization of the game comes into play as well. The way in which Beastman Dailies may repeat for one character and not another and what could that mean character- or story-wise as time goes on. Do you acknowledge when your character keeps getting Brain Buster and beats up Kobold scholars? What do you do with that little bit of WTF the game keeps handing you?

Then there's the way loot drops in a dungeon, or series of dungeon runs. Some of the loot has imaginative names, like the Bow of Owls. Stuff like that adds a whole dimension of its own and seem to just be handed to a character with an insistence of 'use it somehow.' Or then there are times things don't drop no matter how hard I try to get them and that can say something about character too.

One day the chocobo races at the Gold Saucer gave me a whole new facet on one of my characters because of the luck streak involved. I couldn't have planned or anticipated that as it stood but it provided a very nice fit to a character that seemed in need of rounding out somehow.

The use of /random (or dice before random) has provided some of the most funny stuff. We were playing darts once in Buscarron's Druthers and when one of us completely missed the board with a bad role, Spenser of the Bottomless Cup spawned. On cue, we decided that the stray dart hit Spenser and he was outraged and went into his usual drunken fury. Proceed to FATE in character: make lasting memories.

Random weather: I've been caught in snow storms in the middle of field RP and it made a huge impact on the character moment. I've turned around during low-level mining to find Odin staring at me in the South Shroud. ('There's no FATE here ... wait ...')

I-I'm not in control nearly as much as I think I am and somehow I'm okay with that.

É´á´˜á´„ · **08-13-2015, 08:09 PM**

I actually strongly dislike the appearance of this character, but I am resolved to stick with it, since every time I try to use a Fantasia the result ends up worse.

FreelanceWizard · **08-14-2015, 03:01 PM**

I suppose I have a few of these...

I avoid RP situations that I'm pretty sure are going to rub me the wrong way OOCly... but I also sometimes avoid things that I know, but L'yhta doesn't, are going to bother her.
I assume most people dislike both me and my character OOCly.
For reasons 1 and 2 (really, more 2 than 1), I usually don't go to big events and I typically shy away from known RP hot spots. I tend to view my presence in such locations as an imposition on those already there.
This is why I don't typically drop in on friends in other FCs in their houses. I feel like I'm imposing on their RP.
I really don't like "internal monologue" -- those emotes that have a couple of words followed by several sentences about your character's mental state. L'yhta's not a mind-reader!
I probably accept more things ICly than I should.
I'm terrible about following up with people for RP if we don't set a specific time and date. This includes running plot arcs, even if it's my own plot arc.

Eliane Dufresne · **08-14-2015, 05:39 PM**

(08-14-2015, 03:01 PM)FreelanceWizard Wrote:

I assume most people dislike both me and my character OOCly.

I probably accept more things ICly than I should.

I'm terrible about following up with people for RP

Largely in the same boat here. It's hard to convince myself that I'm not weirding out/annoying/boring people, either with my character or myself, so it's a challenge to interact sometimes. I really, really have to push myself outside of my comfort zone and probably make things worse or awkward in the process. It usually takes me a good month to finally relax around somebody, even if I've been interacting with them constantly. Thank you, all you patient people out there. Tongue

I'm really flexible with RP though and I feel like as long as it's plausible, it's cool to roll with it. I'm a bend-it-but-don't-break-it kind of person when it comes to lore and character concepts, and for me fun/inclusivity takes priority over realism or following the rules by the book. It took me forever to accept this, though. Instead I'd lurk in various RP discussion hubs and see people complain about things like, "everyone is a noble, nobody should do that because it should be rare" or, "everyone's character is overpowered, nobody gives them weaknesses" and panic, and I wound up making my first character irredeemably boring in response. I've finally hit the point of, "screw it, I'm done with this, let's just have fun".

And finally? I suck and always draw inspiration/abilities from other characters I like because I'm an unoriginal hack. <.<

Kaiz · **08-14-2015, 05:57 PM**

5: I ERP and support ERPers. I don't get why it bothers other RPers so much. It's all just different kinds of fantasy.

6: I'm rarely ever satisfied with my character backstory or personality, but I don't know how to solve it so I just leave it and hope my character 'matures well'.

Alderique · **08-14-2015, 06:26 PM**

(08-14-2015, 03:01 PM)FreelanceWizard Wrote:

I really don't like "internal monologue" -- those emotes that have a couple of words followed by several sentences about your character's mental state.Â

I am guilty of internal monologuing a lot, and I'm glad to see this comment posted! I always wonder if it annoys people. I do it for a few reasons. It's a way to me to explore my character's thoughts by getting something out into writing, rather than letting it swim around in my head. Sometimes a situation doesn't call for speaking or acting, so I want to show that I'm engaged in and aware of the situation by contributing a post. I don't mind that it's revealing anything, because to me it's similar to how you'll see cutscenes of a part of the story that you're not physically present at. It's a snippet more for the player than the character.

I have have a bias in favor of characters with traditional names, appropriate to their race. I know there are always exceptions, so the execution of any deviations is very important to me. It's one of those things I accept for the sake of getting along and roleplaying.

I don't like in-character race changes, but accept them for the sake of getting along. I would prefer if someone retires their previous character concepts and creates a new one.

I am into ERP, and I get pretty anxious about it. My anxiety is mostly about what other people will think, and not actually having any personal problems with it. It's not something I try to pick up quick flings for though, and prefer it with some in-character build-up, or at least an opportunity to get a feel for how the other player roleplays and writes.

I am fine with a mean/bitchy character who is played by an agreeable player. I am turned off by mean/bitchy characters who are played by mean/bitchy players. My roleplay is social time, and I like to spend my time with decent people who I get along with. I'm not here to entertain jerks.

Cato · **08-14-2015, 06:53 PM**

(08-14-2015, 05:57 PM)Kaiz Wrote: 5: I ERP and support ERPers. I don't get why it bothers other RPers so much. It's all just different kinds of fantasy.

So long as it is safe, consensual and with a clear separation between IC and OOC then I doubt many people have a problem with it. The people who do have an issue with it aren't entirely wrong, though. It's not something to be proud of and wear as a badge of honour. If people want to ERP? Cool. Go ahead! Just be subtle and keep it behind closed doors.

More people need to realise that technically they shouldn't be doing it at all. At least not in public chat channels. Doing so is liable to get someone banned.Â

On a side note, after talking with a few 'outsiders' looking into the role-playing community they've told me that it isn't so much the fact that role-players engage in ERP that bothers them - it's the fact that a lot of themes explored within ERP are, well, pretty creepy.

There's some pretty good reasons as to why there's a stigma attached to ERP. Putting aside the poor quality of a lot of the 'hook up ERP' that goes on within the Quicksand...there's the fact that a lot of ERP is a direct vehicle for people to get off on some rather bizarre fetishes or just manipulate those perceived as vulnerable.

So it's not as simple as 'omg how cud any1 ever h8 erp, i can do wat i want'.

Kellach Woods · **08-14-2015, 06:58 PM**

2) The fucks I give about ERP are so damned low I straight up used a time I did as a backdrop for a mini-thing that happened to Kell. Why? Because it made for an interesting story and it happened.

3 - I'm extremely contrarian. Enough that I straight up WILL do something to piss you off if I feel you're just being a pedantic prick over lore. I've already got a plan for a WHM precisely because everyone around here are like "you can't do that!" or "you can do that but I just won't RP with you!"

4] Any little thing that happens to Kell OOC or IC can be considered "canon" as far as I'm concerned. I'll go out of my way to modify it so it makes sense maybe, but it'll certainly be done.

#5 I often get the feeling people are intentionally avoiding me due to OOC behavior.

Caspar · **08-14-2015, 06:58 PM**

I'm a confident writer, but I simply don't feel I'm very good writing erotica. That's probably why I avoid it. I can't really write in a way that I feel is sufficiently romantic or sensual. I don't hate the players who do it, though I do judge the lalachasers internally...

Cato · **08-14-2015, 07:27 PM**

I'm a sucker for passion and romance though I only ever ERP with those I've come to know and trust not to get all weird and possessive over my character. I don't have much respect for role-players who throw character development/consistency out the window whenever they feel like getting their rocks off. Since then it isn't 'ERP' at all - it's just cyber sex.Â

I'm also pretty guarded when it comes to ERP because I've had some pretty nasty encounters with members of FFXIV's LGBT community who lack boundaries, common decency or just cease role-playing with me altogether when they realise they're not going to get into my character's pants since he's already taken.

Volk · **08-14-2015, 07:50 PM**

I confess that for the passed , i don't know , 3 months or more I have been sort of avoiding community rp . I get the impression that people think that I am stupid/unintelligent . I spend the majority of my life speaking a language other than english and im sorry , but my typing will falter sometimes .

I confess that carelessness about me as a person in RP or in the community easily hurts my feelings and that people should think before they act or speak .

I confess that it irritates me to no end when someone tells me I /cannot/ do something or must justify myself to them . To those who know me or have RPed with me , you know there is nothing outlandish about my character . If nothing else , she is surprisingly mediocre . Even still , people in certain circles insist on being "experts" and basically branding people who deviate from the general consensus to be poor RPers .

I confess that I hold grudges for particularly nasty attitudes expressed toward me . Wondering why we don't speak ? Think if you did something rude to me and apologise and we will be fine again .

kk ilu bye

Arthur · **08-14-2015, 07:54 PM**

I'm a paragraph roleplayer, and a lot of people seem to really hate that? it's something that I've taken with me since my origins in forum RP, and I really just prefer it. (it's like collaborating on writing a book in live time! how cool is that?? o: ) I've been working hard to improve my reply speed, though when it comes to things like IC dungeon runs, I usually just cut everything down to dialogue + brief emotes, which is a challenge for me.

I'm not really a fan of trying to roleplay in settings with tons of people (events mostly). part of it is tied to the above statement, but I don't know. it's easy to drown in text and lose what you were last reading + it just feels a lot more improvisational a lot of the time? while I don't plan RP down to the very last detail beforehand, it's still nice to be able to just RP without having to justify your character being there. (that, and I think I just prefer roleplaying in smaller groups. it feels like there's less pressure.)

I'm super nervous around other roleplayers because of how clique-y it can all get. I've seen a lot of people talking shit about one another under thinly veiled passive aggression, people being super judgmental, and just a lot of negativity in general. I'm not saying you should RP with people you don't want to, or whose styles you don't mesh with, but good googly moogly, there is a lot of cattiness happening. so long as no one is getting hurt, let people do whatever they feel like. on the same token though, try to be considerate of others! (this means no mature [sexual, violent, disturbing, etc] RP on public channels, please. please. and, you know, the obvious - if there's anything questionable you want to bring up in RP, be respectful and ask your RP partner(s) if they're okay with it first!)

we're all partaking in pretendy funtimes in a video game. we need to all be excellent to each other!!

Kaiz · **08-14-2015, 08:41 PM**

(08-14-2015, 06:53 PM)Graeham Wrote:
(08-14-2015, 05:57 PM)Kaiz Wrote: 5: I ERP and support ERPers. I don't get why it bothers other RPers so much. It's all just different kinds of fantasy.

1) So long as it is safe, consensual and with a clear separation between IC and OOC then I doubt many people have a problem with it. The people who do have an issue with it aren't entirely wrong, though. It's not something to be proud of and wear as a badge of honour. If people want to ERP? Cool. Go ahead! Just be subtle and keep it behind closed doors.

2) More people need to realise that technically they shouldn't be doing it at all. At least not in public chat channels. Doing so is liable to get someone banned.Â

3) On a side note, after talking with a few 'outsiders' looking into the role-playing community they've told me that it isn't so much the fact that role-players engage in ERP that bothers them - it's the fact that a lot of themes explored within ERP are, well, pretty creepy.

4) There's some pretty good reasons as to why there's a stigma attached to ERP. Putting aside the poor quality of a lot of the 'hook up ERP' that goes on within the Quicksand...there's the fact that a lot of ERP is a direct vehicle for people to get off on some rather bizarre fetishes or just manipulate those perceived as vulnerable.

So it's not as simple as 'omg how cud any1 ever h8 erp, i can do wat i want'.

Dunno how to multi-quote in this forum, so I numbered the paragraphs.

1) It's not something to be proud of? Why not? Are people not supposed to be proud of things they enjoy? Should normal RPers not be proud to be RPers? And shouldn't all RP be safe, consensual, and have clear IC and OOC separations?Â

2) Sure. Aside from accidental mistells, however, I find it's extremely rare that people try to ERP publically. That said, it's true that the game is not an 'adult' environment, and anyone engaging in ERP should be keeping that in mind.Â

3) I could write volumes on the degenerative psychology behind what sorts of sexual concepts are permissible, but this isn't really the environment for it. All else aside, however, this basically boils down to saying "It's outside my comfort zone, so it's bad.", which is a perfectly normal stance to have, but it's still no reason why people who are comfortable with it should be made to feel guilty about it.

4) There are a lot of reasons, yes, but very few good reasons. Poor quality RP is something that is not exclusive to erotica. Some players are just bad RPers in general, whether ERP or regular RP. Also, are you implying that regular RP isn't a 'direct vehicle' for some kind of fantasy? If not, how is ERP any different, aside from just catering to different desires?

As for the LGBT community, I can't comment on that, as it's outside my area of experience. If it's a small community, I can certainly understand if a few individuals have made it problematic, but generally I wouldn't condemn an entire community for the actions of a few individuals.

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