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RE: So You Want To Be A Scholar |
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09-28-2015, 07:52 AM
(09-28-2015, 12:51 AM)hauntmedoitagain Wrote:
(09-24-2015, 11:26 AM)Vyce Wrote: I also discovered that Fairies were CREATED by man and are not natural beings.

(09-24-2015, 11:39 AM)Gegenji Wrote: And yes, a Fairy is an artificial elemental created by the Nymian Scholars, not unlike a more "advanced" version of the more primitive Carbuncle of the Arcanists.

This is not quite true... it's significantly implied that a fairy is its own being, not a manifestation of the caster's creation:

It is, actually, true though.

Las Vegas Lore Panel Wrote:Q: To follow up on a question from the stream earlier- the taxonomy that fairies fall into. Is there an origin to how they become fairies of Scholars. Were they fairies and then bound to scholars? or did the scholars create them?

MCKF: Yes, the second one. Fairies again, while they fall under the taxonomy of elementals, they are actually beings that were created. They did not exist before. The Scholar would take the energies and elements from around them and would basically create these beings that were made of the elements.

So, yes, the original Faeries were created by the Nymians. But the faeries they created were sentient beings, so their control over them and their magic was not 100% - just like Alka Zolka says in your referenced screenshots.

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RE: So You Want To Be A Scholar |
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09-28-2015, 07:58 AM
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Sounsyy got to it first and I forgot to preview ; ;
(09-28-2015, 12:51 AM)hauntmedoitagain Wrote:
(09-24-2015, 11:26 AM)Vyce Wrote: I also discovered that Fairies were CREATED by man and are not natural beings.

(09-24-2015, 11:39 AM)Gegenji Wrote: And yes, a Fairy is an artificial elemental created by the Nymian Scholars, not unlike a more "advanced" version of the more primitive Carbuncle of the Arcanists.

This is not quite true... it's significantly implied that a fairy is its own being, not a manifestation of the caster's creation:

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Quote:A: To follow up on a question from the stream earlier- the taxonomy that fairies fall into. Is there an origin to how they become fairies of Scholars. Were they fairies and then bound to scholars? or did the scholars create them?

MCKF: Yes, the second one. Fairies again, while they fall under the taxonomy of elementals, they are actually beings that were created. They did not exist before. The Scholar would take the energies and elements from around them and would basically create these beings that were made of the elements.


An implied statement, especially from an NPC who does not know everything can be wrong in FFXIV. The lore team has stated that they will deliberately misinform players through NPC dialogue and even monster names to give Eorzea the feeling that not everyone knows the answers, especially NPCs. In which this case, he doesn't know the nature and origins of the Fairies. There's even cases of monster names being changed because a regular Lominsan wouldn't know about Allagan technology so they just assume Leviathan drowned (temptered) someone.
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RE: So You Want To Be A Scholar |
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SpoilerFrom the level 30 quest: 

 Alka Zolka's interest in history is a practical one, as he seeks to research the military tactics of Nym, an ancient civilization said to have repulsed would-be invaders time and time again. He had hoped that an arcanist might help analyze any text pertaining to magical arts-- that is, if he were in possession of any texts to translate. However, Alka Zolka had not anticipated the appearance of an otherworldly creature, one which seemingly burst forth from a crystal you found with the tablets. Hastily translating one of the tablets, Alka Zolka explains that the creature is a faerie, one which once served as the companion of a Nymian scholar. Alka Zolka explains that the crystal you found was the Soul of the Scholar, and that with it, you can call upon the faerie at will. Reasoning that an experienced arcanist would be in a better position to preserve the lost arts, he decides to entrust the crystal to you.

Sorry on a phone, quoting is a pain.

You dont just "stumble" upon a faerie that decides you're cool. You find the soulstone to which the faerie was bound. It's because of that (and the fact that you're a skilled arcanist) that you're able to summon her as you need.

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RE: So You Want To Be A Scholar |
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09-28-2015, 09:15 AM
The scholar archetype is actually my favorite one to play and most of my characters are scholars, especially Cecilia who is a Scholar and a scholar.Laugh
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RE: So You Want To Be A Scholar |
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09-28-2015, 09:34 AM
I will hopefully edit all this today. Work drama blah.

Also, I noticed someone mentioned using Lily in RP. Unfortunately you cannot interact with Lily ICly. She is one individual fairy created by a Nymean scholar whose soulstone the PC finds. You must either find another soulstone or create your own fairy.

In my case, Vyce created Nell. But because Nymean magic is still mostly misunderstood, Nell is a bit incomplete. She can only manifest in a Selene form, and is currently able to act as she chooses. Vyce cannot control her actions and must live with a sentient being who is capable of mischief at will. He still cares about her.
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RE: So You Want To Be A Scholar |
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09-28-2015, 01:08 PM
(09-28-2015, 09:34 AM)Vyce Wrote: I will hopefully edit all this today. Work drama blah.

Also, I noticed someone mentioned using Lily in RP. Unfortunately you cannot interact with Lily ICly. She is one individual fairy created by a Nymean scholar whose soulstone the PC finds. You must either find another soulstone or create your own fairy.

In my case, Vyce created Nell. But because Nymean magic is still mostly misunderstood, Nell is a bit incomplete. She can only manifest in a Selene form, and is currently able to act as she chooses. Vyce cannot control her actions and must live with a sentient being who is capable of mischief at will. He still cares about her.

I think she meant that she named her fairy Lily before she had finished the scholar quests, and stuck with it anyway.  But it's not the Lily from the quests.

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