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Ashe · **10-20-2015, 07:37 PM**

I'm curious because I've only ever seen them mentioned twice ICly...once by myself with Kasumi as a ninja from Doma and once by an FC mate with his DRK-ness.
I see a lot of people RP jobs and never really mention having the soul stones.
For Ashe as a "black mage," I took his casting as a black mage to be like the ones in the 50+ quests...the ones who spontaneously combusted from casting as they did without having soul stones. Hence...him not really casting all that often because don't want to kill yourself kind of thing >>
So...
What say you?

**Unnamed Mercenary** · **10-20-2015, 07:46 PM**

I see them mentioned quite often with PLD RPers and MNK RPers! (This is likely because I tend to see people RPing those jobs more often than the others).

For me, if I were to RP a job instead of a class, I'd probably check to see how available/viable it is. Black Magic, as stated by the game over and over is horribly illegal in Ul'dah and its secrets are closely guarded. White Magic is as equally guarded by the Elementals and Padjal for many of the same reasons. Allagan Summoner and Nymian Scholar soul stones seem to be a "if you get lucky while digging through ruins" type of occurrence these days, while many of the physical combat jobs and new classes seem to be more open to a revival of their lost skills/a artificially created stones, like MCH.

For Franz, I don't forsee him ever really properly tapping into the power of a soul stone. While he has managed to get a SCH stone, it's treated as an acquaintence's trinket. He keeps it close, but whatever form of "equipping" that's done for a soul stone, Franz is definitely doing it wrong.

Sig · **10-20-2015, 07:50 PM**

(10-20-2015, 07:37 PM)Ashe Wrote: I'm curious because I've only ever seen them mentioned twice ICly...once by myself with Kasumi as a ninja from Doma and once by an FC mate with his DRK-ness.
I see a lot of people RP jobs and never really mention having the soul stones.
For Ashe as a "black mage," I took his casting as a black mage to be like the ones in the 50+ quests...the ones who spontaneously combusted from casting as they did without having soul stones. Hence...him not really casting all that often because don't want to kill yourself kind of thing >>
So...
What say you?

I respect RP'ers who incorporate soul stones in their RP but would not incorporate a soul stone as part of my characters. FFXIV lore is vague enough to permit characters to perform the same functions as most jobs without strict compliance to soul-stone lore. Â

If a character possess a soul stone, my characters' reactions would be contingent on their knowledge of the arcane and the veracity of the character in possession of the soul stone. Â Sigurd, for example, would probably take little interest in the subject, but would believe statements describing the function of the soul-stone if the possessor appeared credible.

Val · **10-20-2015, 07:54 PM**

As I've said before, to me the soul stone is just a plot device that SE uses to justify being able to swap classes on a whim. They have a horrible history with coming up with half-assed lore to explain game mechanics. Of course, I don't mind other people using it and I'm not going to tell them they can't or anything. After all, it's there/in the game =) I'm just not really fond of the it, myself.

SicketySix · **10-20-2015, 08:15 PM**

I usually just ignore them, I highly doubt my character needs a soul stone to wield a great sword and to punch something. So yeah, that's my take on it.

Caspar · **10-20-2015, 08:18 PM**

I don't, unless it is mentioned by the questline directly or by an rper I'm playing with. They seem to exist icly, but I like to avoid addressing it for reasons similar to Clothes Make The Legend. I will gladly play along if other rpers use them icly in rp with Virara.

Ashe · **10-20-2015, 08:29 PM**

I think there are some (not all) jobs that really need it though.
Going back to Black Mages, the quest literally has people spontaneously combust because they don't have the soul stone and are casting with Black Magic.Â
Ninjas also have the stones in the quest line. Like how you physically accept one from a dead ninja and how Karasu gives his up to not be a ninja anymore.
Anywhooo. Lots of interesting insight though.

Zelmanov · **10-20-2015, 08:30 PM**

I tend to ignore them, I'll never have a plotline involving a stolen or pick-pocketed soulstone robbing Orrin of his powers or anything of the like.Â

However I am lore-flexible (as always) so if anything Orrin has one, and has infused a great deal of his knowledge into it as well.

Ashe · **10-20-2015, 08:31 PM**

(10-20-2015, 08:30 PM)Zelmanov Wrote: I tend to ignore them, I'll never have a plotline involving a stolen or pick-pocketed soulstone robbing Orrin of his powers or anything of the like.Â

However I am lore-flexible (as always) so if anything Orrin has one, and has infused a great deal of his knowledge into it as well.

I should fix that...

Caspar · **10-20-2015, 08:32 PM**

Yeah, i always regard them as existing, but I don't usually mention them myself if they're not mentioned in the job quest line. The MCH one is explicitly artificially made iirc.

Jana · **10-20-2015, 09:38 PM**

I do use a soul stone in my RP (specifically, the SMN one) and treat it as a "repository" of the previous holder's memories. Jana uses it in her research to uncover new magic and such, and while she guards it closely, losing it wouldn't leave her powerless.

Valde · **10-20-2015, 10:57 PM**

While I won't pretend other's Soulstones don't exist, I've little interest in RPing my character having one. It's just another means to an end power wise, and with so much drama concerning an RP characters power, skill, and the soulstones themselves I'd rather enjoy telling a story without that added problematic item.

Solenne · **10-21-2015, 12:26 AM**

(10-20-2015, 10:57 PM)Isaelt Haragin Wrote: While I won't pretend other's Soulstones don't exist, I've little interest in RPing my character having one. It's just another means to an end power wise, and with so much drama concerning an RP characters power, skill, and the soulstones themselves I'd rather enjoy telling a story without that added problematic item.

Agreed. I figure there are so many other ways to add spice to my characters. My archer, Michaux, is also a musician and singer, but he's not a bard in the proper Eorzean sense. Solenne is just a conjurer, and Yisu is just a thaumaturge. What make them unique are their backstories, their personalities, and their ambitions.

Aya · **10-21-2015, 01:20 AM**

I don't!

They're a macguffin (okay, macguffin isn't really accurate, but I like the way the word sounds, and its close enough!) and not one I care for.Â They seem to enter the story primarily as a means for the WoL to become *insert thing that hasn't existed for thousands of years* or to otherwise avoid the realistic training time abilities would otherwise time to achieve.

I do realize that they have broader lore support than that, and are available to NPCs as well, but that is nonetheless the feeling they give me: "we were too lazy and wanted to make this easy to stuff into the story."

I'd just rather they didn't exist!Â As far as other people use them for their own character story, and whatnot, to explain their acquisition of abilities and power, that's all fine and well I guess Smile

I don't much mind if characters have become capable through training, so what's the difference in becoming capable by magical macguffin instead. I'll just nod and play along like I usually do!

Nebbs · **10-21-2015, 01:56 AM**

I'm in the, not used camp. I tend to not make my char any specific class. So for example Tribe Shaman or Witch or Fighter type.Â

I don't mind others using them.

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