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Felix Sideris · **07-02-2013, 01:47 PM**

I am relatively new to ARR and it's lore, and so my questions goes out to the roleplay community as a whole, but also especially the Miqo'te roleplayers.

First questions:

What is Miqo'te roleplay like?

I am asking this because the lore behind Miqo'te, while interesting on paper, does not suit my taste in actual roleplay. It's a bit too tribal for me, and so what is the rp like? Is the Miqo'te roleplay, as a whole, more civilized or relatable to Hyur, or more tribal and lore-abiding?

Would it be frowned upon in the community to roleplay a more civilized Miqo'te? And what type of roleplay do you see coming from Miqo'te most often? How are Miqo'te generally depicted?

Second Questions:

What is your roleplay on your Miqo'te or what do you planning on doing?

I am curious to see what roleplay ideas people have for their Miqo'te.

Khaze'to Zhwan · **07-02-2013, 01:53 PM**

(07-02-2013, 01:47 PM)Tarath Wrote: I am relatively new to ARR and it's lore, and so my questions goes out to the roleplay community as a whole, but also especially the Miqo'te roleplayers.

First questions:

What is Miqo'te roleplay like?

I am asking this because the lore behind Miqo'te, while interesting on paper, does not suit my taste in actual roleplay. It's a bit too tribal for me, and so what is the rp like? Is the Miqo'te roleplay, as a whole, more civilized or relatable to Hyur, or more tribal and lore-abiding?

Would it be frowned upon in the community to roleplay a more civilized Miqo'te? And what type of roleplay do you see coming from Miqo'te most often? How are Miqo'te generally depicted?

Second Questions:

What is your roleplay on your Miqo'te or what do you planning on doing?

I am curious to see what roleplay ideas people have for their Miqo'te.

Ok as to your first question there is nothing to stop you from playing your Miqo'te from a city point of view who really dislikes the whole trible thing. Â Its completely up to you on that front. Â

For your second question I am rping as a more tribal Miqo'te, Â hes older though and a little bit wiser in the ways of the world than say a fresh faced youngster from a tribe stepping into the city for the first time.

***Alothia*** · **07-02-2013, 01:54 PM**

It all depends on where your Miqo'te grew up. A lot of us made our Miqo'te before they released the information on the lore, and so we have more metropolitan Miqo'te, which operate just like any other city dweller.

Others have fit in the tribal aspect into their character. It's all up to the player.

You can check out my wiki if you'd like to know more about my Miqo'te. Link is in my signature. ^^

Y'hmir · **07-02-2013, 01:56 PM**

As I have yet to actually rp with someone I won't be able to answer for any community as a whole but I'll give you my thoughts around it.

I personally see no reason why you couldn't play your character as a more 'civilized' person, regardless if s/he is a tribe member or not. To me, lore is to help me device a background for the character I want to play and not a 'law' or set of rules I need to follow or I'd be doing it wrong.

I have two Miqo'te characters, both Seekers, one being a tribe member and one being not. One simply did not grow up in a tribe and has lived his whole life in Limsa, and the other left the tribe, and has already learned and adapted to various type of cultures. One carries a common-sounding name and the other has kept his tribe name.

I could go on for a good length about their back stories and ideas but I'll hold off a bit for a moment, as I'm not completely done with my ideas yet.

Just my two cents. Hope it helped, at least a little =)

Felix Sideris · **07-02-2013, 01:57 PM**

(07-02-2013, 01:53 PM)Tulcaondo Wrote:
(07-02-2013, 01:47 PM)Tarath Wrote: I am relatively new to ARR and it's lore, and so my questions goes out to the roleplay community as a whole, but also especially the Miqo'te roleplayers.

First questions:

What is Miqo'te roleplay like?

I am asking this because the lore behind Miqo'te, while interesting on paper, does not suit my taste in actual roleplay. It's a bit too tribal for me, and so what is the rp like? Is the Miqo'te roleplay, as a whole, more civilized or relatable to Hyur, or more tribal and lore-abiding?

Would it be frowned upon in the community to roleplay a more civilized Miqo'te? And what type of roleplay do you see coming from Miqo'te most often? How are Miqo'te generally depicted?

Second Questions:

What is your roleplay on your Miqo'te or what do you planning on doing?

I am curious to see what roleplay ideas people have for their Miqo'te.
Ok as to your first question there is nothing to stop you from playing your Miqo'te from a city point of view who really dislikes the whole trible thing. Â Its completely up to you on that front. Â

For your second question I am rping as a more tribal Miqo'te, Â hes older though and a little bit wiser in the ways of the world than say a fresh faced youngster from a tribe stepping into the city for the first time.

Thanks for the quick reply. Smile

I know in the end it is up to me, thats the nice thing about story writing. However, I also want to make sure my story is open and exciting for other roleplayers, not just myself. One of the things I love the most about roleplay is character interaction.

And I think its pretty acceptable to have an older, traditional styled Miqo'te, it adds conflict and such between the generations. However, would you say that as a general community, more people are roleplaying tribal styled Miqo'te, or more of a civilized style?

(07-02-2013, 01:54 PM)Alothia Wrote: It all depends on where your Miqo'te grew up. A lot of us made our Miqo'te before they released the information on the lore, and so we have more metropolitan Miqo'te, which operate just like any other city dweller.

Others have fit in the tribal aspect into their character. It's all up to the player.

You can check out my wiki if you'd like to know more about my Miqo'te. Link is in my signature. ^^

Thankies

I'll take a look!

(07-02-2013, 01:56 PM)Domos Wrote: As I have yet to actually rp with someone I won't be able to answer for any community as a whole but I'll give you my thoughts around it.

I personally see no reason why you couldn't play your character as a more 'civilized' person, regardless if s/he is a tribe member or not. To me, lore is to help me device a background for the character I want to play and not a 'law' or set of rules I need to follow or I'd be doing it wrong.

I have two Miqo'te characters, both Seekers, one being a tribe member and one being not. One simply did not grow up in a tribe and has lived his whole life in Limsa, and the other left the tribe, and has already learned and adapted to various type of cultures. One carries a common-sounding name and the other has kept his tribe name.

I could go on for a good length about their back stories and ideas but I'll hold off a bit for a moment, as I'm not completely done with my ideas yet.

Just my two cents. Hope it helped, at least a little =)

It did, thank you.

I have a bit of a story written but I am hesitant on blending it into a Miqo'te. I wanted to see what the RP community's views were towards them and how they are roleplayed/depicted in roleplay before I make that step. Thanks again!

allgivenover · **07-02-2013, 02:01 PM**

In my experience so far in beta and skype RP it's been the case that Miqo'te RPers tend to play metropolitan city-living Miqo'te that don't follow the traditional angle detailed in lore. So if you want to have a non-traditional Miqo'te, go for it!
One additional thing to consider, often I see people assuming that tribal Miqo'te are inherently savage, brutal, or primitive and uncivilized. There's no grounding for this reasoning, as there are plenty of traditionally named Seeker and Keeper Miqot'e hanging out in the three city-states getting along with the civilized folk just fine.

My own Miqo'te is a traditionally raised Keeper of the Moon male who is far from a savage - though his education is a little lacking.

Khaze'to Zhwan · **07-02-2013, 02:03 PM**

(07-02-2013, 01:57 PM)Tarath Wrote: Thanks for the quick reply.

I know in the end it is up to me, thats the nice thing about story writing. However, I also want to make sure my story is open and exciting for other roleplayers, not just myself. One of the things I love the most about roleplay is character interaction.

And I think its pretty acceptable to have an older, traditional styled Miqo'te, it adds conflict and such between the generations. However, would you say that as a general community, more people are roleplaying tribal styled Miqo'te, or more of a civilized style?

(07-02-2013, 01:54 PM)Alothia Wrote: It all depends on where your Miqo'te grew up. A lot of us made our Miqo'te before they released the information on the lore, and so we have more metropolitan Miqo'te, which operate just like any other city dweller.

Others have fit in the tribal aspect into their character. It's all up to the player.

You can check out my wiki if you'd like to know more about my Miqo'te. Link is in my signature. ^^
Thankies

I'll take a look!

I think Alothia answered your question for you Big Grin

Â welcome to the Miqo'te, Â If you want to check on the tribal aspect for my character a link to the wiki is in my signature, could be good to give you some counter view points. Â It is WIP though.

Merri · **07-02-2013, 02:04 PM**

As others have mentioned, you can play a Miqo'te who isn't tribal. While my character wouldn't exactly be considered Metropolitan since he was out adventuring at the ripe age of 11 (and hasn't stopped since), he wasn't born in a tribe, wasn't given a tribal name, and doesn't follow the tribal lifestyle in the least.

Now, characteristically Endemerrin is most definitely a Sunseeker. He's very energetic, very adventurous. He does sort of go against the whole "brooding male Miqo'te" stereotype, however, in that he is incredibly friendly and enthusiastic about many things. He'll be a friend to almost anyone, and offer his help to strangers in need at the drop of a hat~

You can honestly make any personality work for any race. Just go for it! You do not have to stick to stereotypes in the least~

Ellie · **07-02-2013, 02:07 PM**

My current Miqo'te character is a book loving physician who couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag. I don't think being a tribal type character is required to play a Miqo'te.

Azthran · **07-02-2013, 02:18 PM**

From what I've read and come to understand Miqo'te tribes aren't a group of savages like the tribes of WoW trolls for example as that might push the race to being a bit more like the some of the beastmen tribes. Actually if I'm not mistaken one of the quest hubs later on is a tribe's village with a single building holding some representatives from Ul'dah. (I didn't go into the building but it had Ul'dah's flag on it by the door so that's just me assuming.)

I myself am playing a male from one of the tribes but there are a lot of others who aren't and like mentioned before most of the NPCs in the city states have names that follow the tribal naming conventions.

I also find it helps to think of the tribes as more of just a big family. Instead of looking at the surname to tell what family they are from you look at the prefix of their first name.

Khaze'to Zhwan · **07-02-2013, 02:20 PM**

(07-02-2013, 02:18 PM)Azthran Wrote: From what I've read and come to understand Miqo'te tribes aren't a group of savages like the tribes of WoW trolls for example as that might push the race to being a bit more like the some of the beastmen tribes. Actually if I'm not mistaken one of the quest hubs later on is a tribe's village with a single building holding some representatives from Ul'dah. (I didn't go into the building but it had Ul'dah's flag on it by the door so that's just me assuming.)

I myself am playing a male from one of the tribes but there are a lot of others who aren't and like mentioned before most of the NPCs in the city states have names that follow the tribal naming conventions.

I also find it helps to think of the tribes as more of just a big family. Instead of looking at the surname to tell what family they are from you look at the prefix of their first name.

I have to agree with this in that Khaze'to is not savage at all, they are just a small family that lives in the woods hunting and gathering, Â they are really quite friendly once you get past that rough exterior Big Grin

I would disagree however with the surname thing as that is only for sun seekers. Â Keepers of the Moon do use surname as a key indicator of family line.

Azthran · **07-02-2013, 02:23 PM**

(07-02-2013, 02:20 PM)Tulcaondo Wrote:
(07-02-2013, 02:18 PM)Azthran Wrote: From what I've read and come to understand Miqo'te tribes aren't a group of savages like the tribes of WoW trolls for example as that might push the race to being a bit more like the some of the beastmen tribes. Actually if I'm not mistaken one of the quest hubs later on is a tribe's village with a single building holding some representatives from Ul'dah. (I didn't go into the building but it had Ul'dah's flag on it by the door so that's just me assuming.)

I myself am playing a male from one of the tribes but there are a lot of others who aren't and like mentioned before most of the NPCs in the city states have names that follow the tribal naming conventions.

I also find it helps to think of the tribes as more of just a big family. Instead of looking at the surname to tell what family they are from you look at the prefix of their first name.
I have to agree with this in that Khaze'to is not savage at all, they are just a small family that lives in the woods hunting and gathering, Â they are really quite friendly once you get past that rough exterior

I would disagree however with the surname thing as that is only for sun seekers. Â Keepers of the Moon do use surname as a key indicator of family line.

Yeah I should have mentioned that the surname thing was for Sunseekers and not Moonkeepers. It slipped my mind because to my understanding Moonkeepers don't actually have tribes and just smaller family units.

Asyria · **07-02-2013, 02:33 PM**

My Keeper Miqo'te lives in Ul'dah so she's isn't very tribal, especially when most other Miqo'te there are Seekers and it's such a big city with many different races present.
On the other hand, she manages her business closely with her sister as a business partner so you could say she still has some tribal roots in that her family is very important to her.

As others said, don't confuse tribal with savage, though!

Felix Sideris · **07-02-2013, 02:33 PM**

(07-02-2013, 02:01 PM)allgivenover Wrote: In my experience so far in beta and skype RP it's been the case that Miqo'te RPers tend to play metropolitan city-living Miqo'te that don't follow the traditional angle detailed in lore. So if you want to have a non-traditional Miqo'te, go for it!
One additional thing to consider, often I see people assuming that tribal Miqo'te are inherently savage, brutal, or primitive and uncivilized. There's no grounding for this reasoning, as there are plenty of traditionally named Seeker and Keeper Miqot'e hanging out in the three city-states getting along with the civilized folk just fine.

My own Miqo'te is a traditionally raised Keeper of the Moon male who is far from a savage - though his education is a little lacking.

(07-02-2013, 02:33 PM)Asyria Wrote: My Keeper Miqo'te lives in Ul'dah so she's isn't very tribal, especially when most other Miqo'te there are Seekers and it's such a big city with many different races present.
On the other hand, she manages her business closely with her sister as a business partner so you could say she still has some tribal roots in that her family is very important to her.

As others said, don't confuse tribal with savage, though!

I suppose the Sunseeker's tribal end of the lore turned be off a bit. Well, not so much the tribal end of it as much as it was the whole Nuhn breeding thing. For me, in roleplay for my character, it was too carnal? Maybe carnal isn't the right word, but I am sure many of you know what I am trying to say. XD

Thanks for all of the replies thus far, it has been very helpful.

allgivenover · **07-02-2013, 02:55 PM**

You're making the assumption that their position as Nuhn means that they get exclusive access and/or dominance over as many Miqo'te women as they want. All the lore says is that they gain the right to breed, and that there's about 50 or so females to every breeding male.

That doesn't mean they run around acquiring as many females as they can manage for a supposed harem type situation. This automatic negative light some of us are casting on Seeker culture comes from our own cultural norms regarding sexuality. This is roleplay though, on a totally different, fantastical and importantly fictionalÂ world. It's alright to apply a more neutral sociological perspective to them because of it.

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